Heh, nice idea guys. Looking forward to a clan game, [WM] vs [20] ;)
Since there were ideas of clan games before ([WM] vs [REGL] is ongoing), when you finish your "core group" maybe create a round-robin consisting of 3 player teams (3 teams from each of the clans, [WM], [FBG], [REGL] etc.) on Europe map, or round-robin 8vs8 on Quad-Earth (or sth similar). Btw. guys, a friendly advice, don't base your requirements on stats, a challenge is easy to set up and a lot more dependable. Good luck guys, can't wait to play against you.

P.S., it seems tournaments are going to be much harder from now on;)

I would add another requirement:
-at least 4000 games, thanks

congrats Heyheuhei, congrats retro, lol :-)

And having played at least 30 games against me. Sound fair.

Btw, could anyone creating sometimes a difficult 1v1 tourney add me to the invite's list ? Usually I'm happy to join and I hope I'm not the most terrible player out there :o)

mian, create your own you lazy member!

retro and hhh are a new clan: [4000] retro & [4000] hhh. they have intra-clan round-robins to increase their games played and ensure nobody comes close.

Hey PA, I did, remember ? ;o)

lol. you should make that roman empire game of wastelands and 4 neutrals a tournament and then torture people by inviting them

I'll think about it. I'll ask Fizzer to open a tourney where the theme is 20 players, everyone best-of-7 vs. PA with these settings. You're gonna love it ;o)

hey, i'd join the group. it might be a way of getting to know better people i like to play with, coming up with strategies, big competitions (i like the idea of a 10v10 [wm] vs [20])...
as basic criteria to join (or be excluded from the group), i'd recommend to take into account in addition to the other criteria posted previously:

* if the player has not been inactive for more than a week, month (TBD). -- i might not qualify myself in that respect, but i think it is fair...

i also dont like having a clan prefix on my name (and i do change my name a lot).

I'm kinda disappointed I wasn't invited / mentioned. But maybe I'm just not that good. :-) (no reply on this needed, I don't need to have my ego stroked nor crushed.)

I think requirement iii is a bit strange compared to the others. All others are quite objective criteria which take into account the strength of the opponents (where for v can be easily checked if the opponents were somewhat worthy). iii however can be easily cheated on, with custom or specific settings, good teammates, bad opponents, dual accounts, ...

Mathwolf, Imho, you're about the same skill rating as me, and we're at best second tier, despite me wanting to think I am better ;)

we got 18 so far for our proto-league/clan: [bee](http://warlight.net/Profile.aspx?p=192806575), [mr no stress bc i work too much](http://warlight.net/Profile.aspx?p=683148613), [old man bp](http://warlight.net/Profile.aspx?p=11574160), [the chump of many names](http://warlight.net/Profile.aspx?p=372868673), [denzy](http://warlight.net/Profile.aspx?p=551537537), [old man eitz](http://warlight.net/Profile.aspx?p=78625626), [turkish male model](http://warlight.net/Profile.aspx?p=274009349), [fly](http://warlight.net/Profile.aspx?p=832419523), [lobsterman](http://warlight.net/Profile.aspx?p=313139615), [creative name](http://warlight.net/Profile.aspx?p=232020800), [hello kitty](http://warlight.net/Profile.aspx?p=272872358), [vancouver canucks](http://warlight.net/Profile.aspx?p=241484390), [old man bitter beer face](http://warlight.net/Profile.aspx?p=17471229), [napoleon from animal farm](http://warlight.net/Profile.aspx?p=172508573), [not losi](http://warlight.net/Profile.aspx?p=211503398), [man of two names that replace each other](http://warlight.net/Profile.aspx?p=281327218), [crusader slayer](http://warlight.net/Profile.aspx?p=394839335), me.

Still waiting on responses from: alex cho, andrew, oliebol, poziomek, rafal, rayguns, retro, snow, spider, tambourineman, impaller, lollipop, grandpa troll, well known soldier, ye old english.

The next group of players to be invited once we iron out the details: dr ken, supersaiyan, jaremaj, sasha grey, mud, geeksada, ret, ezpickens, grona, luke, bobzidio, Quwrof wrlccywrlfr, montpelliercacraint, marcovian, problemo. Can anyone think of other good players to be invited?

Also, anyone who initially declined to join, feel free to join later. You've been invited already so you can join any time you want (especially HHH!). The Fizzer of Oz is also welcome to join as an honorary member if he wants to see observe our proto-league as a means of gathering ideas for implementing formal leagues on WL.

Just wondering, where would I fall in? Second teir with Perrin (as menioned above) or lower? Feel free to give me a reality check.

Wish I were good enough to be considered for this. I feel like I'm a strong player, with over half wins, but not on y'alls level. I'll try to work my way there though! Getting closer by the day.

bishes, you were on the list copied from a 5 v 5 game private message to a 10 v 10 team chat and onto here. you were between two [WM] players' names so i didn't see it and you got lost.

noob, i haven't played with you a great deal. maybe someone who has can say more.

I've played 25 games with you, near 40 with "chump" now and about 30 with ken hai :P We just haven't spoken much.

Oh that's nice to know, thanks :)

^ lol at phillipe's hyperlink names, thats hilarious. And should I start a 3rd tier clan? hehe

i just invited 47 others. plus the 13 we are waiting to get replies from, that's 60. we already have 18.

joining members will be voted on by the core group of 20 (which has not yet been determined, since we still need to vote on each other once there are at least 20 members) to determine if they will be accepted into the group. then, the 20 voting members will vote on all the accepted members to determine a new group of 20 (voting members) as well as the group of 8. the frequency of later voting, to determine rank, has not been decided.

Would boot rate also be a parameter? being a good player doesn't make your AI any better!