I'd recommend actually reading it. It is not what you just said it is. :) A Tweetstorm is just a series of tweets- electionado's canvas just compiles them together. That does not mean the author's primary citations are tweets by Trump supporters; it just means that this was initially posted on Twitter.

Not the best format, but it does have links/citations and the data does check out.

I usually don't like being the guy who says "here's an article link, go read it" so I picked something that's fairly quick to read and doesn't get too verbose. :)

If you want an article, though, I can provide that too.

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Knyte, what do you make of this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-K8bf6dbYt4

I'm not in favor of capitalism in the long run; it's just a question of how we transition to worker control over the means of production.

@Tabby: I'm not throwing any of those groups under the bus, sorry. We're either all here as equals or none of us are.

while banning illegal immigration

Also, have you ever thought about how poorly analyzed your own policy proposals are? Maybe you're not as smart as you give yourself credit for. :^)

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I see the first mistake he makes; one, the typical republican economic platform isn't be espoused by Trump, and deregulation and free trade are different things. Trump is for deregulation and less free trade (the US doesn't have free trade), you can't simply say republicans are for laissez faire and apply that to Trump, and say trade isn't a concern.

Then he moves to sexism in Trump support. Well I ask, what is sexism in this case? Is it not wanting abortion, subsidized feminine things and having troubles with women? Believing women are inferior?

Then he moves to immigration concerns; well I have to ask, you know that immigration is a primarily economic concern, correct? I know that folk who don't have to worry about either being a welfare bum or starving tend to focus on immigrants being some shade darker than beige, but the taking of jobs is defintely a concern. From my experience, working class rural folk tend to worry about immigration regardless of being white, black or Hispanic.

Finally, if white folk voting like a minority is bad, why do you not decry blacks and Hispanics voting in blocs?

Just saying, Knyte and Tabby are in the same region of insanity in my opinion.

I don't think you're familiar with economic analysis of his plan (or Bernie's own economic illiteracy- this is a candidate who assumed that the volume of high-frequency trades would remain unchanged after instituting a tax on high-frequency trading)- we're talking about a deficit like we've never seen before.

So, you're saying that the richest country on the planet can't afford to educate its citizens the way many other less-rich countries already do? Where is all that money going?

Taking away the ability to care for your children is morally bankrupt

I don't think even you would argue against government taking children away from a parent that tries to kill them.

this is irridian haha

Xapy, I tried looking that up in google and thefreedictionary but only got some industrial company.

Irridium is the rarest element in the Earth's skin, and it's a phrase in Kazakh.

No point arguing with someone who doesn't even have a basic moral compass to relate to.

as someone who has talked with knyte about mores, this is untrue. But I think he is irked that folk dig themselves into a hole and he just won't even try anymore.

Back in March- I shit you not- it was just links to YouTube videos of him ranting about Mexico and China.

March? you mean 8 months or so before the picks?

The same data which practically guaranteed a Clinton victory?

it was 7:3 odds, I don't know if it's just socialists being way overconfident or conserves exxagerating things, but it was a good enough likelihood Trump wins.

Too bad the voters didn't have a chance to vote for Bernie's free college tuition plan, eh?

university is a luxury. First should be reformed the free teaching sistema before trying to make more teaching free. And it already is free, to some extent. It certainly is accessible to anyone who is willing to take loans (and it's sensible enough - the jobs you get with university diplomes are much higher-paying than the ones without), and it already is free if you get certain scholarships and grants from government that have been about since Spootnik-1.

Knyte and Tabby are in the same region of insanity in my opinion.

There's some screenshot of the OT forum summed up pretty well. Karl says something like "nice shitpost, kike"; Tabby says something about Jews being awesome, and MGSB says "taxation is theft.". All in a row.

you're somewhere in the same.

you're saying that the richest country on the planet can't afford to educate its citizens the way many other less-rich countries already do

it's not affordable in other countries, it's very expensive and leads to just jobless folk who don't want to accept lower work since they think it's beneath them. Not also saying that America is not the richest country on Earth, whether looked on by wholeness or relevantly by head, and it already is I think the top spender on teaching on Earth, both by wholeness, and by each student.

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Irridium is the rarest element in the Earth's skin, and it's a phrase in Kazakh.

Ah, spelling mistake then (for English, at least). It's Iridium, from iris, thus iridian, which apparently means "relating to the iris of the eye; relating to a rainbow".

Still don't get your comment, but whatever.

@Knyte: have you actually watched the video? It's not just a headline. It's relevant to this disucssion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-K8bf6dbYt4

[@Tabby: I downvoted your comment, since it's ad hominem, poisoning the well, and adds nothing to the discussion.]

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Juq is a troll. Please do not take his OT posts seriously.

I'm not a troll. If it's something, it's an alcohol admiral.

^Juq is a troll. Please do not take his OT posts seriously.

>everyone who I disagree with is a troll

Interesting and productive discussion so far. See how we've moved beyond the initial flame warring just by being a bit more reasonable with each other? Let's not derail this kind of discussion with more accusations and shit like that. Just downvote noisy comments and move on, IMO.

I don't think even you would argue against government taking children away from a parent that tries to kill them.

Taking away the ability

you have the ability to care for your child so long as you don't abuse them.

If you don't have a job you don't have the ability to care for your child; you are not able to, that's what ability is.

If Smedley thinks I'm insane, I'll take that as a compliment.

@wct: don't have 17 minutes to spare; summary?

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It's sad how people can't talk to each other anymore.

We're talking about Adam from third grade who punched me in the face just for looking a little bit different from him. We're talking about Collin in high school, apparently one of the best shooters in Texas, who called me racial slurs and told me to meet him after school so he could "show me his gun." We're talking about "poor white trash"- not all rural folk, not all working folk, just the people whose enthusiasm for Trump suddenly jumps in studies when someone reminds them America will be minority-white by 2042- and people like Eklipse who stand up for and enable them.

Yeah, thank god you have parents who can shill out a million dollars for you to go to CMU, sounds like you love capitalism. You don't have to deal with these people because of Capitalism, and thank god you aren't paying for them.

But what do I know, I'm just a 14 year old "conservative" with parents who also work their asses off (Nurse and Business Adviser in-case you want to call me a hillbilly hick redneck red-stater)

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@wct: don't have 17 minutes to spare; summary?

You really should watch it. I would not be able to summarize it better than the video already does. You can find 17 minutes. Posting and reading on this thread has consumed far more than 17 mins of your time already. :-)

PS: When watching talky videos on YouTube, I often use the video speed controls at either 1.5x or 2x, depending on how complex the material is. You should be able to get away with 1.5x on this, but 2x might be too fast. If you go 1.5x, it's only about 10 mins.

Edited 11/27/2016 03:45:57

@Ben: You're taking this too personally if you think I'm calling you a racist hillbilly. I'm straight up talking about Adam, Collin, and their ilk (Adam and Collin are real people, these are real interactions- I'm using their real first names). I certainly don't see you as a racist and obviously don't see my friends who support(ed) Trump as racists. I'm talking about a specific (but large) subset of Trump voters- the "hidden white voters" in the Midwest who swung this election.

Yeah, thank god you have parents who can shill out a million dollars for you to go to CMU, sounds like you love capitalism.

:^) You're right, I'm not fully financially independent yet. I'm very lucky to be able to get a small loan of a quarter million dollars to fund my undergrad until I achieve full financial independence in 2018 (literally the moment I don't have to worry about tuition).

Certainly felt nice to be able to choose this over a full ride to a pretty damn good state school- most people don't even get to accept all the options I've been able to reject so far in life. (Not to say that I'm particularly exceptional either- many people get better outcomes out of high school, too.)

Not everyone gets to make that choice, and I certainly won't claim to have achieved that through moral fortitude or some other BS like that- hard work is usually a necessary but not sufficient condition for a good economic outlook. I freely admit that I've been very lucky in life- that equality of opportunity doesn't exist, and I'm on the benefiting side of that reality.

Not gonna deny that I've got a lot of opportunities handed to me on a plate- like I said, I'm fairly well-insulated from crisis. That's exactly why I said I'm not worried in any way about these small attempted upheavals like Trump- there's no political tool available to supplant the 'globalist, educated elites.' The people and cultures that Midwestern white voters rebelled against (and now strangely demand empathy from) aren't driven by politics but by socioeconomic and technological inevitability. These people- we?- can't be defeated by politics for that simple reason.

And never did I say that I stand to lose from capitalism. I certainly don't need government subsidies to sustain my economic mode of existence, do I? It's not hard for me to sell what skills I have in the market- and once you have a means of accumulating capital, the rest ain't tough.

@wct: Alright I'll get back to you once I watch it.

Edited 11/27/2016 05:24:24

Again, I'm not a representative (or member) of another civilization, unless you agree with me on the issue of Texas basically being an independent country already.

Edited 11/27/2016 05:30:18