dazed, i like challenges. i invited you to two 1v1 RRs (one with the best, one with a lot of good players), a 2v2 (you/x vs me/myhand...this isn't exactly fair), and a 5v5 (all the guys you said aren't good enough to be in a top 10 list vs you & anyone you want...this is also not fair). i made the games. i'd like to see you prove yourself.

Sorry chief. One edit per person per day. I'll fix it tomorrow provided you don't screw up before that time.

Fizzer, Nuckluck, Duke, Troll, TeddyFSB, Waya, Heyheuhei, slejer, blueprecision, the impaller

A much better list

Really, only games can decide, who is best, not friends or countrymans, voting is too unfair

somehow heyheuhei sounded like he quoted shakespeare ...
the stage is set, let fate decide the victor
not friend nor countryman


@ixouaeouxi you dont even know half of the mentioned people ... just because they arent members

so basically heyheuhei is right ... voting is a popularity contest for most people.

though, getting a little traffic to 20's facebook page is the only real goal here, as stated above

as for who is best: games don't matter so much as who knows about the games. eg: player A is the best. nobody knows about him. player B is in reality only the 10th best. everybody knows about him but doesnt know much about the other 9. so player B is proclaimed the best, even if he always/usually loses to player A.

i dont think i would be in the top 200. and d&i wasnt saying he should have been in the top ten instead. youre the only one who cares about who is better at an online version of risk, so stop being so hostile.

If we're making a list of the best Warlight players, why not also make a list of the best map-builders? I'd nominate two people already: Fizzer, for not only being the player who made the most maps of them all, but also that all maps have perfect borders, and the incredibly hard Hopscotch map, which I think contains the hardest connections on any Warlight map. And Rashaz, for making three super-large maps, all with perfect borders, and, except for the USA map almost no missing connections. I've only found one in the Large Poland map so far, Powiat Bochenski - Powiat Proszowicki in Malopolskie. And, for USA Big, it has over 10.000 connections, so if he missed a hundred, it's still only 1%. The same goes for unnamed territories, I guess in the time he made that map, Warlight didn't tell you if you had unnamed territories on your map.
Who (dis)agrees?

If you want to find out the best player u should make sth like that.

Select, lets say, '20' the best of the bests.
Make SOME robin tournaments (~5-10 or even more), sum up every rankings like in ski jumping or so. You will approximately get the level of participants.

And comparing 1v1 games to team games is strongly unfair.

U can make the same thing with "the bests" 2v2, 3v3 (and so on) teams but certainly you cant point ONE PERSON who is the best overall player. Too much factors have influence on it

create an ELO rating to adjust one's rating for every game played . anything less is mere conjecture.

if an ELO rating were implemented, i think guys who have not bothered to play a determined number of certain games should have their rating decreased automatically:

- less than 10 1v1s: -50 (for example)
- less than 10 2v2s: -50
- less than 10 3v3s: -50
- less than 10 FFAs: -20 per 3 FFA, 4 FFA, 5 FFA, 6 FFA
- less than 10 2v2v2s: -50

an overall ELO rating should determine the best overall player, not specialists: different types of games (1v1, 2v2, 3v3, FFAs, etc.) require different strategies, approaches. evaluating the totality of skills/strategies should be the goal.

an ELO would be good for another reason too: it'd separate guys who tend to play weak opponents to make their stats look good from guys who play the best on a regular basis but lose more frequently.

@ x: re-read my initial post. the primary goal of this thread is not what you think it is. this is why i am 'hostile' toward you: i don't like nitpickers who can't read a text to determine its main purpose. the women in my life (wife, co-workers, bosses, etc.) do that enough. i don't want to go to a war site and have grown men nag me too.

those players have played a massive amount of lifetime games and are also well known. what about a player that joined a few months ago with under 300 games played?

Yuanshuai maybe it will work but only if in team games your teammates will be choosen randomly

do you mean your idea? if so, yes, random teammates would be the best way. though that is still only an approximate way to settle it (eg, how can 20-40 such games tell more about you as a player than the 4500 you've already played?). too bad tournaments can't be made with random teammates and then seeing how each individual player does...

are you referring to an ELO rating for team games? if so, it's already being done on pogo.com (for cribbage and other card games): quality of teammates and quality of opponents determine what happens to your rating if you win/lose. beat a better team with lesser teammates: rating goes up more than if you beat a weaker team with stronger teammates. lose to a stronger team with weaker teammates and your rating changes less than if you lose to a weaker team when you have better teammates.

anyway, it all depends on fizzer, and he seems to prefer the auto game's map/settings: eg, his hopscotch map and quad-earth maps; the new ladder is that same template with minor changes to the settings; etc.

I think statistically, i'm the best!

You act like a 5 year old that didn't get his icecream. Not like I'm the only one that said you didn't belong on the top 10, you asked people to vote so don't hate on people for responding to your idiotic thread in which you voted for yourself like a tool. Fail more, your tears warm my heart.

And X is right, while I am pretty damn awesome on the ladder settings, I hate the map/settings and am not a top 10 warlight player for that template. I only play it b/c I like to climb ladders, though this gets boring very quick with only 1 boring template to play.

Once you get to the top 20-30, everyone is pretty much equal anyway.

I understand why you put yourself in your own top 10 list though, it's the same reason kids and lonely guys work so strongly on their Man2Hand relations, nobody else is going to do it after all.

D&I, why do you care so much? This is obviously bothering you quite a bit, and I'm finding it hard to come up with a reason. Yuan asked a simple question, and gave a simple answer, no one is forced to agree, and you've made it pretty obvious that you don't agree. Why do you continue posting?

Lol? He has been hating on me ever since my post making 2 tournaments, several games, and talking crap in each one. Like some screen shots? This is my first reply to all the hating coming my way from him.