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North Korea vs Detroit, which one is worse?: 4/4/2017 02:29:00


(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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North Korea vs Detroit, which one is worse?: 4/4/2017 02:50:03


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Which is worse? The most impoverished nation in the world, where simply uttering a negative statement about the most random of topics that happens to be in disagreement with state opinions? Or Detroit?
North Korea vs Detroit, which one is worse?: 4/4/2017 03:06:29


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I misread this as a thread made by Paugerrs satirising how extremely poorly Tabby thought of Detroit. But it turns out it's not satire at all.
North Korea vs Detroit, which one is worse?: 4/4/2017 03:12:53


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North Korea is definitely worse. But Detroit is still pretty damn awful.
North Korea vs Detroit, which one is worse?: 4/4/2017 03:18:03


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I agree that North Korea is currently worse. However it can be fixed within a short time if a regime change happens. The problem with American ghettos is much worse in the long run.

At least North Koreans can keep the basic infrastructure of Pyongyang running while ghettos can not.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=beJqExSORKE
This is Detroit.
http://video.nationalgeographic.com/video/short-film-showcase/rare-look-inside-north-koreas-capital-city
This is Pyongyang.

North Korea is a good example of an inherently functional people that unfortunately currently suffers from tyranny. On the other hand, Detroit is a good example of an inherently broken entity that remains almost impossible to fix regardless of how much money outsiders pump into it.

You can't suppress what is great forever, nor can you boost what is inherently dysfunctional without making things functional. One good example is Poland. Nobody can trash it forever for it is inherently functional and great. National Socialists and Soviets can artificially mess up Poland but this suppression can not last forever.

Edited 4/4/2017 03:31:11
North Korea vs Detroit, which one is worse?: 4/4/2017 03:36:30


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Furthermore North Korea isn't the most impoverished country on Planet Earth despite the insane Kim regime. Zimbabwe is probably worse.
North Korea vs Detroit, which one is worse?: 4/4/2017 03:59:15


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Do shops in North Korea need plexiglass?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=17LBp19MADw
North Korea vs Detroit, which one is worse?: 4/4/2017 05:28:50


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I was thinking about a ghetto near Newark in NJ I stepped into one day before I was ghetto-aware. Almost everything looked broken.

I have never been to a bullet proof restaurant though which is good for me. That's a new level of insanity.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uWFn_VZUvx4

Maybe I should also share my observation of Baltimore, Newark and Philadelphia with you guys. I have been to all three so what I will say is literally what I saw.

Edited 4/4/2017 05:35:42
North Korea vs Detroit, which one is worse?: 4/4/2017 05:38:54


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I visited Baltimore before the riots and it was already bad enough. Beggars everywhere, the downtown was completely broken, I observed a beggar stealing soda from a Subway, people still walking outdoors at 2AM.

Edited 4/4/2017 05:40:10
North Korea vs Detroit, which one is worse?: 4/4/2017 06:04:19


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How can you compare the best country in the world to one city????? that doesn't make any sense.
North Korea vs Detroit, which one is worse?: 4/4/2017 06:32:21


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^No. To me both are places that are not fit for human residence. However 50 years later people will travel to Pyongyang for its pretty buildings and modern infrastructure for Kim will be gone. On the other hand 50 years later Detroit will remain broken unless something as drastic as forced ethnic cleansing happens.

Edited 4/4/2017 06:33:24
North Korea vs Detroit, which one is worse?: 4/4/2017 07:36:43


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Those residences in pyongyang you showed us are for the north korean upper class. Most of NK is poor and rural though but they won't show you pictures of that. You are easily being fooled by propagenda
North Korea vs Detroit, which one is worse?: 4/4/2017 08:19:16


MightySpeck (a Koala) 
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lol Tabby you have obviously never been to Best Korea. Why are you buying South Korean Jew's lies. The north is just better.

Edited 4/4/2017 08:19:25
North Korea vs Detroit, which one is worse?: 4/4/2017 14:10:53


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@Belgian What I was talking about is that North Koreans aren't broken. The problem here is not poverty. North Koreans are still functional.

This is just like Stalin deporting Volga Germans. Deprived but they still managed to be as great as they can in Kazakhstan.

^Come on. You know what I mean, right? That's just infeasible. People will sound like National Socialists if they actually get Detroit fixed. You need to either fix the people of Detroit or you need to remove them. Trump is in essence trying the former.

Edited 4/4/2017 15:10:43
North Korea vs Detroit, which one is worse?: 4/4/2017 17:12:58


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Passing out soap does not make Detroit more hygienic.

Passing out EBT does not make Detroit richer.

Passing out organic food does not make Detroit healthier.

Repairing roads does not make ghettos less messed up than what they were before.

Confiscation does not make Jews poorer in the long run.

Boycotts can not destroyed the Israeli economy.

Rocket fires can not make Israel a huge wasteland.

Edited 4/4/2017 17:16:03
North Korea vs Detroit, which one is worse?: 4/4/2017 17:25:08


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YOU FUCKING WANT TO MASS MURDER BLACKS
North Korea vs Detroit, which one is worse?: 4/4/2017 17:28:45


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^Who? Not me. However I do want to point out that the problem of Detroit is entrenched. Basically either the problem won't be fixed or National Socialism will become reality. You like to put your words in my mouth and consider my hypothetical arguments actual intention to do certain things.

Meow!


^^ That's good for those who sell soap to the government. Still won't fix anything. You can give them soap but what good does it do them if they don't use it? Now do you want to force them to use soap? That sounds like a prison.

Edited 4/4/2017 17:35:24
North Korea vs Detroit, which one is worse?: 4/4/2017 18:41:52


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So what do you mean by ethnic cleansing?
North Korea vs Detroit, which one is worse?: 4/4/2017 20:04:37


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It's hypothetical. I mean the problem is so hard that other than National Socialist-style ethnic cleansing (yes this does mean removal) Detroit can't be fixed. However we won't go NS because it is too cruel so Detroit will perpetually remain unfixed.
North Korea vs Detroit, which one is worse?: 4/4/2017 20:31:31


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I'm still don't Get why we are comparing the best to the worst.
North Korea vs Detroit, which one is worse?: 4/5/2017 00:14:45


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NK is evil. However to be sufficiently evil you need some organization. Detroit does not have the ability to be really evil (or really good) for it is just terrible for no legitimate reason.

Edited 4/5/2017 00:15:03
North Korea vs Detroit, which one is worse?: 4/5/2017 00:43:23


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For your own safety, Tabby, I really hope you don't know any black people in real life.
North Korea vs Detroit, which one is worse?: 4/5/2017 01:58:47


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^I'm just pointing out the truth. There are several explanations on why the ghettos are bad. Racism, politics, culture and genetics.

Racism has contributed a bit to the problem however I doubt it is sufficient. One example is minorities from high IQ groups seem to have no trouble earning money anywhere even when they are hated. (No, that does not only apply to Jews so it is not Jewish exceptionalism at work. For example Japanese Americans could earn more than even white Americans farming in California even before WWII. Some people hated the Japanese but that did not stop them from succeeding).

Politics is another explanation. However not all black areas have left-wing or right-wing policies. Leftists can't be blamed for black poverty in Mississippi and Haiti. Rightists can't be blamed for black poverty in California and other left-wing locations. Welfare is responsible for some, but not all of the problems.

Culture. This is a better explanation. However black culture isn't uniform on Planet Earth while black criminality and underdevelopment largely is. From America to France to Israel to Trinidad and Tobago blacks are statistically poor and prone to crimes. I have heard that Dominica (not Dominican Republic) is black without too much crime. That's an exception, not the rule.

Genetics. This explanation is probably the one people are least comfortable with. However unfortunately it is probably the one that can provide the best explanation. Please correct me if I'm wrong. However I do believe that the natural environment of Sub-Saharan Africa is why blacks haven't evolved the traits fit for modern civilization yet while others largely have done so. For example high testosterone level might be good in the savannah but certainly bad in a modern civilization. Hence they have to compete with people who are inherently much more competent than them (no, not because the ancestors of these people are inherently superior. It's just that most ancient people outside Africa got extinct in evolution and only the smartest, the most diligent, etc are left alive while in Sub-Saharan Africa such process did not happen) and generally fail.

If Dr.Watson the Nobel Prize Laureate does believe that there are racial differences in intelligence and provided some good argument why shall we oppose him only on the grounds of violating an ideology? We can deny facts however we want to but they won't go away. I'm telling you liberals what I told Karl, namely belief does not make some opinion more true and disbelief does not make the belief more false.

I watched the videos showing Detroit and other ghettos. Sometimes the infrastructure is broken. However usually it is intact. These places won't have been bad if their crime rates had been much lower. I'm sure that some villages in Eastern Europe or China have worse infrastructure than these ghettos. However if you move these villagers to the ghettos and ghetto people to these villages you will see the former ghettos booming immediately while the poor villages will get much worse immediately. There is really nothing wrong with inner city ghettos of America other than its violent criminals. America is rich and infrastructure can be easily (re)built so that's not really a problem. On the other hand, the real problem lies in the behavior of some people. There are many diligent and high-IQ people from many countries who would dream of living in these beautiful houses ghetto people trashed. Believe me. If we move some Moldovans or Vietnamese to these ghettos and ghetto people somewhere else the ghettos will return to prosperity over night. However where are we going to accommodate these former residents of ghettos? We shouldn't harm them. That's for sure. If we don't control and change their behaviors (I believe culture can offset genetic issues) these problems will always exist. However if we do it we will look extremely authoritarian and paternalistic. So there are no good solutions.

Edited 4/5/2017 02:15:43
North Korea vs Detroit, which one is worse?: 4/5/2017 02:18:20


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@Karl Nope, I won't.

@Ox One of the least bad solutions is transhumanism. However it is very unfair to make them smart and non-violent while they can still outcompete others in reproduction or we will all go the way of Neanderthals/Denisovans/Erectus/etc one day. Hence if we do so we also need some concessions or upgrade other groups as well. Before that's feasible it is medicine + control (i.e. I will feed you and teach you but you have to obey my rules). Here "control" does not mean concentration camps or prisons. Instead "control" means placing them in modern facilities and preventing them from harming themselves (Ex: building up the entire Nigeria as a giant facility for all black people. Air-conditioners are everywhere so people won't feel it's too hot. A facility farm produces food to feed the inhabitants. Tens of thousands of doctors exist in the facility to care for the people. Railroads inside the facility can allow people to move around. Adequate schools for the kids. Everything is funded by appropriating state property in Africa and then selling it to developers).

Edited 4/5/2017 02:29:47
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