Replying to Moros now:
So I suppose you think they should be re-integrated? Indeed, we don't really have city states, but I sort of wanted to highlight them. I guess the distribution mode already did the trick, but I just wanted to try.
If I add provincial bonuses, I do think I need another bonus for these small provinces, however stupid it may look. In this case, I'll have to exclude the cities from the normal bonuses in order for the provincial bonuses to have any function. Probably, Flevoland, Drenthe, and Zeeland would get a provincial bonus of 1 or 2.
By the way, in v1.3, Koggenland will be part of West-Friesland instead of Amsterdam.

Geldrop was, by the way, not the misspelled municipality I was talking about, but well found anyhow.
I'll give you another hint: there's a mistake in the pronoun's abbreviation. Well, I can't make it any easier than that.

I like the highlighting of province capitals. I don't think the capitals of the provinces have to be included in an other bonus in that province.

And i think there should be a bonus for having the complete province (all bonusses + capital)

@ Domenico, i'm not sure how the send feedback button works, but that is what i used.

Misspelled territory name:
St. Michelsgestel -> St. Mich **i** elsgestel
Vucht -> Vu **g** ht
(Both of them are near Den Bosch)
Gelrop-Mierlo -> Gel **d** rop-Mierlo
(Near Eindhoven)

Missing connection:
Leeuwarderadeel <--> Menaldumadeel
Either Eindhoven <--> Heeze-Leende or Waalre <--> Geldrop-Mierlo (if you could move the bonus square a little (maybe on the "corner" in the Eindhoven/Veldhoven border?), that would be great too)


As for adding provincial bonuses: be sure to give them a relatively low value! For instance, if you'd add a Utrecht bonus of 25 (doesn't seem unreasonable), someone holding all of Utrecht will get 25 + 10 + 10 + 1 = 46 reinforcements; by definition, they also hold East-Utrecht, West-Utrecht and the city. So, I'd say a Utrecht bonus (on top of the two halves) should be worth at most 5, but maybe 3 would be better.

Speaking of Utrecht, it's a perfect illustration of why it's good to not include the capitol city in the bonus. Also, I agree with Moros; just because some (big) provinces have sub-bonuses doesn't mean all of them have to. Take a look at (Moros' ;) ) Canada Big; some of the "provinces" are subdivided into smaller bonuses, but not all of them.

I send a list with a lot of missing connections to the original author, but well... I used the feedback button for that, so I don't have a copy of that list anymore. :(

Please just post it here if you happen to find it again. I didn't get an e-mail, so it must've been sent to the original creator.
As for the names, I'd already corrected Vught and Geldrop and I've corrected Sint-Michielsgestel as well. I've also corrected some Frisian municipalities' names and connections.
I've also corrected the Eindhoven connection you were talking about; it was Eindhoven <--> Heeze-Leende. I'll see if I can find a better place to put the bonus square.

As for the provincial bonuses, I do want to give all the provinces a meta-bonus.
As for the values, I must admit I hadn't looked really well at that yet, I just divided the amount of territories by 7. I was planning to take a better look at it while testing v1.3. I'll certainly invite you, Sewerrat and Moros.
But in the meanwhile, if you have suggestions, here is the list of values so far:

+ Noord-Holland = 9 *(62 territories / total bonus = 53)*
+ Zuid-Holland = 10 *(73 / 65)*
+ Utrecht = 4 *(28 / 25)*
+ Zeeland = 2 *(13 / 11)*
+ Noord-Brabant = 10 *(68 / 55)*
+ Limburg = 5 *(34 / 26)*
+ Gelderland = 8 *(56 / 48)*
+ Overijssel = 4 *(25 / 22)*
+ Flevoland = 1 *(6 / 5)*
+ Drenthe = 2 *(12 / 14)* (The regular Drenthe Bonus is definitely overrated)
+ Groningen = 3 *(23 / 22)*
+ Friesland = 4 *(31 / 27)*

Looks like the map is already slightly outdated as well. Some municipalities have merged, most notably five Frisian ones that merged into Súdwest-Fryslân.
Also, four municipalities in West-Friesland (which is not in Friesland) will be merging into Hollands Kroon.
Do you guys think I should use the 2012 division?

I think you should do it, but also re-divide the bonuses. For example: I think you should make a new bonus in Noord-Holland, that includes the communes Andijk, Anna Paulowna, Den Helder, Drechterland, Enkhuizen, Harenkarspel, Heerhugowaard, Hoorn, Koggenland, Langedijk, Medemblik, Niedorp, Opmeer, Schagen, Stede Broec, Texel, Wervershoof, Wieringen, Wieringermeer and Zijpe, because that's accurate since there is a partnership between those communes in real life, and call it Kop van Noord-Holland, to avoid confusion with Friesland.

Well, for now I went ahead and made a v1.4 with the current bonuses. I allotted Súdwest-Fryslân to Zuid-Friesland and Hollandse Kroon to West-Friesland. I must say that Noord-Holland and Friesland's values dropped significantly.

I will probably make such a Kop Bonus, but first I want to test the map with the provincial bonuses (1.3), then this 1.4 with the new divisions, and I also want to spend some time on my other project. Plus I want to try to make the publishing of the map a New Year's occasion, so it's time for a little *contre-le-montre*.

Against your watch?

*Against **the** watch.*

I do hope you could deduce that this meant *a race against time*, but in French you say against the watch...

French was never my strongest point :)

By the way, I just saw that a Netherlands Small Map was uploaded by, if I'm not mistaken, the original creator of this map.

Yup, and I have no idea why he made those ridiculous borders... I think he got an svg file, and just moved the provinces apart.

And he again placed Schiermonnikoog under Frisian control...

LOL! I thought Schiermonnikoog was from Groningen, but I just looked it up...

Domenico, Moros,


Just saw the invite email and nudge you both sent me. My Internet access is problematic at the moment (router broke) so until the second week of 2012 (I'm celebrating New Year abroad) I can't be of any help, sorry. :(

Okay, the definitive version is now online.
As you'll see, I have abolished the Midden-Gelderland Bonus and divided West-Brabant into a new West-Brabant plus a rough imitation of the Breda-Tilburg region, which also gained some formerly Bossche and Eindhovense territories.
Also, I have further devalued the regular Flevoland Bonus and the Gooi Bonus.

I hope the map is now done, but if you do find any mistakes, do tell me.
If it's something like a missing connection or a grave bonus value error, I'll correct the map and re-upload it in February.
If there are no urgently needed corrections, I'll wait till next year, when there will be municipal redivisions again.

Here's the first connection error:

+ Sint-Michielsgestel -- Sint-Oedenrode

And so there will be an update in February...

Zwijndrecht <--> Barendrecht
Sorry :(

That's alright. I should have been able to see that. I do hope it'll be solved by February.
I wish I was somehow able to see the graph alone.

This is a bit of work, your choice whether you want to put in all the effort.

You could ask Matma if he can make a version of his connection utility that doesn't talk to the WL server and only works on a local SVG file; just to spit out a list of connections which should exist. I'm unsure how Matma's tool handles territories which are only touching with a corner (the *Netherlands (Big)* map has a few of those). Also, there's a bunch of very weirdly-shaped territories (such as Den Haag) which it might not handle well. However, by and large, it should give you a nearly-accurate list of connections.

You can (ab)use the [Query game API](http://wiki.warlight.net/index.php/Query_game_API) to get a list of actually existing connections (the map editing APIs are limited to setting connections, they can't query). Downside is it only works for finished ladder and tournament games (not simply maps; that's what you get with a *Query **game** API*), so you'll need the ID of a tournament game on this map. (Alternatively, ask Fizzer if he'd consider adding an API. Another alternative is to ask Fizzer to, just this once, dump the connection list from the database manually.)

Then, it's a matter of normalizing the format, sorting it and running a diff. That gives you a list of connections which (probably) should be added and some which Matma's tool didn't expect (careful, that will include things such as Enkhuizen <--> Lelystad!). However, with any amount of luck, both lists are very short and can simply be processed by hand, effectively making it two lists of "double check these manually".

If you think this is a good idea, but you don't have time:

- I don't mind talking to Matma, but his code is written in a language (Ruby) which I don't speak, so it'll still be a matter of whether he wants to write it. Also, I obviously don't have the SVG file which is needed as input (which is of course easy enough to fix, with your permission).
- I doubt Fizzer would want to bother writing another API (which would have very little practical use other than this special case), so that leaves us which either looking for a tournament played on (the newest version of!) this map, or asking Fizzer to dump the connections manually.
I've only played single player so far (I can't promise opponents I'll have time to finish a game), so I have no experience with tournaments. Asking Fizzer is simply writing an email, which would make a lot more sense if it was sent by the maintainer of the map.
- If you can get the raw data, I don't mind doing the processing though. There's one practical problem though: the last week of January and the first of February are called "Exam period" here, so I can almost promise you I'd miss your February deadline...