I agree retrospekja. They are too similar. Another thing i would like to say is that i disagree with Gui and all that people that complain about luck. Not luck as the % in the settings, but the luck which involves the picks, the orders and so on. I know that probably i'm the first that involves the whole heaven when i'm so unlucky and i get mad, but after all that's part of the game and it's nice as it is. Who would ever like to play the SAME repetitve games? Have everything under control it's so boring imo, it's right to keep some unknowns in the games, as it happens to real life, as it happened in the history.

perrin,

[standardized: i think this would make the europe game better](http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer.aspx?TemplateID=149610)
[the one i used to play most](http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer.aspx?TemplateID=144920)


the response is the same for both. nobody seems to care too much if it's europe warlords, cities or standardized bonuses cities. europe with no cards is the important factor. though i've noticed this: create a 3v3 europe no cards and a 4v4 europe no cards and the non-members are more excited about the 4v4 due to its novelty: they can't make it, so they jump at the chance to play it.

red, i still remember our [first ladder game](http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer.aspx?GameID=1471475). what i've *advocated* is settings that would enable the stronger player (your positioning was stronger) to win (i won). no priority card and maybe you would've played that differently...i certainly enjoyed your cursing. i like that. i think we should get a group of serial swearers together and play games in which each sentence must have an expletive. that would be fun. instead of gl to begin and gg to end: fu and gfy. instead of lol: tff or hs.

Probably i'm wrong but i see a lot of sarcasm in your words... as all the posts i read last days... but yeah, probably i'm wrong.
As i said before i'm the first that get mad when something goes wrong with luck, but after all it's good to have some unpredictible factors.

something the taiwanese love to say: "you think too much"

I get mad quickly when something goes bad with luck.. but just as quickly go "*ahh well..*" because I know I have had many occassions it has benefited me, but they tend to not stick out in ones mind as much..