increase the game count so everyone has 2 games? end once everyone plays 5? then we play eu 3v3, the sexiest game in town?

can i still enter ?

I agree with 3v3 eu

powerneg: sorry, members only. :(

problem with making more games is that some folks don't like to have too many games, and there is no way to configure the number of games like in the normal warlight ladders, and still have it somehow fair.

hmmm... thinking about it i guess i could allow for users to configure their own number of games if i implement some sort of game expiration date and instead of creating games per tiers of ranking, they just throw together any 6 players that are still looking for more games.

opinions?

also, this seems more or less table now, and still only 20 players interested in participating? where are the hordes of folks that kept asking for different ladders and tournaments and what not?

*table = stable :)

make a Eu 3v3 4 spot cities 0% weighted random and you will get at least 50 ppl.

also much people don't like play with random teammate.
i am sure too tahe if you put fiz team, you will get more player.

eu 3v3. that's what the hordes cry for.

some updates:

As you might have noticed now there are 2 3vs3 CLOT ladders running.
The link to access them is this:
http://tpolm.org/~ps/wl_clot/

The new ladder will remain Europe Warlords 3vs3 Fixed Teams.
http://www.tpolm.org/~ps/wl_clot/europe3vs3

And this one (previously known as East Asia 3vs3) will become a rotational template ladder. Gui helped me pick the templates. All of them are 0% straight round, so the ladder remains members only. Sorry non-members.
http://www.tpolm.org/~ps/wl_clot/random3vs3

These are the templates in place right now:

http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TemplateID=290970
Strategic East Asia

http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TemplateID=301803
Europe Warlords

http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TemplateID=301787
Medium France

http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TemplateID=301673
Europe Cities

http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TemplateID=301792
Battle Islands IV

http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TemplateID=301801
Imperium Romanum

When a new round of games is up for creation the algorythm will count how many games have been played on the previous templates and use the template that has been used the least. So they will rotate.

There is a plan to replace templates, it will only occur when the leader of the ladder reaches a number of games multiple of 10. At that point we have a poll and decide which template to replace, the leader gets to pick the replacement (might even be the same if he's cruel enough).

I'm also thinking of doubling the number of created games. The first batch will remain as it is (random teams amongst the 6 tiered players). The second batch will create teams pairing 2 players of the highest tier with one of the lowest and set them against each other.

If you play 3v3 games with other members please inform them about the ladder, the more folks involved the more fun it becomes.

To join you just have to post me a request. To leave the ladder you either post me a request, decline one of the games or get booted from one of the games.

I want to join the random template ladder

luck settings, in order of what is most commonly played: 16% weighted, 0% weighted, 0% straight round, 16% straight round

any way to have different luck for different templates? not everyone enjoys calculator games of exactitudes and absolute certainties like gnuff and sze. personally, i think 0% round is the worst common luck setting possible.

also, luck should match the map and settings, like how a pair of shoes matches what someone wears.

for example, battle islands should have a luck setting that chaos prefers. he made those maps with a strategic purpose in mind. i bet his luck settings for it would be most appropriate.

Frank: added

Gui: it's possible, i just hate going for an initial combo and not getting it because of luck, so that's why i set them all to 0% straight round. but i guess some exceptions on certain maps might make sense.

you're the boss. but making that first turn bonus a gamble instead of a certainty changes everything, including whether or not you win the pick lottery:

pick lottery luck + certainty of first turn bonus could lead to an insurmountable early advantage. allowing the possibility of missing 3v2s decreases the influence of the pick lottery on the outcome of the game. this is why i prefer 75% luck to 0 straight round. going for 3 3v2s on the first turn when an enemy is a move away is usually a mistake.

...with 75 luck

next suggestion of gui: " i think autodistribution work better again. bc remplace "pick lottery"

also, PS, make what luck you want, but i am not sure that good player are willing to lose a match bc they fail a 4v2 maybe...
and for sure, on 75% , luck influence more then a "pick lottery"
also, i don't agree on say pick are a lottery. usually there are a lot of best bonus, not a single best bonus, that take it = win match

for some settings (heavy earth fixed warlords), autodistribute might be better or at least more enjoyable. i know you don't mind sitting around for 10 minutes in real-time waiting for people to pick. you seem to have as many supercomputers going as games/accounts being played. for me, i prefer to relax. if I play realtime it tends to be late at night. waiting 10 minutes for picks in addition to the 5-20 minute wait to get enough players can be annoying.

next suggestion of gnuff: "i think determining each team's winning % average and then letting the 'better' team win is best. then my team will win more and i won't have to worry about luck at all. i especially want this for the fixed team ladder."

(has sze challenged you yet? or did your 1v1 me best of 7 victory over him scare him away?)

yeah, maybe autodistribute could work for it, but i am not sure anyway.
I do not think sze is afraid of me.

if it is 75% luck why don't people treat neutrals differently? this is how i think:

75 luck 3v1 is almost the same as 16 luck 2v1.
75 luck 4v2 is similar to 16 luck 3v2
75 luck 5-6 v 2 is similar to 16 luck 4v2

if you really want something in 75 luck:
4v1
7v2

after my first 500 games i figured that out. but if you play 75 luck solely based off what the calculator says and don't ever use 4v1 or 7v2 attacks (when you can afford to) for neutrals that are essential, then there is no reason to complain. you are playing 75 luck as if it is 16 or 0 luck so you should miss here and there and maybe even lose because of it. if you adjust your important attacks to fit the settings you can better manage your cumulative luck.