Aranka frustrates me most of the time.

BUT Red you can't use someone's sexual orientation to put them down. You know better than that.

That would be similar to me dismissing you for being Romanian.

Your reaction comes up from form your involuntar association between sexual orientaion and a discriminatory use. For me etero=gay=lesbo it's THE SAME. I don't discriminate anyone.
Also i wasn't serius at all, i just joked about why X said that Aranka makes Relite the best clan. And just the fact that they have a woman in the clan, it's enough to make it special, even more if she is not a "straight" woman, you don't say? My statement was less serious that you think.
Don't exorcise me in this way because i had nice conversations with Aranka, so i wouldn't have any reason to "attack her" and i surely don't come on the forum to discriminate people.

Now that i explain what i meant (not being english native/good english speaking it's the main factor here, i could be misunderstood very easy), i apologise with Aranka if she felt in any way discriminated or insulted. I just used an info that she gave to all of us on the forum, trying to make a metaphore between this and the italian politics, but i failed as it seemed to be. I have to improve my english level to afford that kind of subtleties.

It's a very extraneous detail to mention ... the point your making obviously suits the word "girl", not lesbian. So it's odd that you felt the need to mention it at all.

it's enough to make it special, even more if she is not a "straight" woman, you don't say?

For me [h]etero=gay=lesbo it's THE SAME.

So is it the same, or more special? It's not an attack or discrimination, it's just strange that you would seize on it. Or remember it at all, really.

I know there are a lot of exotic dancers in the Italian parliament at the moment, I didn't know that a significant number were lesbians?

I mean that it's the same from a discriminatory point of view. But it's not the same commoness (don't know if this word exists. In the real world, straight orientaion is the most common i suppose, also i don't know that many lesbians (let gays alone, in the last years italy had a good raise of them). In the Warlight context it's even more rare to meet one.

Also the link to the italian parliament was not about the sexual orientation of the exotic dancers, but about that they use them to gain votes, to prevail on the other parties, the same way as you said that is enough to have Aranka in Relite to be the best clan. (italian party use girls to be considerated the best, relite use girl(s)[Aranka] to be considerated the best) that's it, as you can see nothing serious because it's obvius that Relite is not considerated the way they are because of their special member, but because of their skills.

Well then, as you demonstrate in the last paragraph, the reference to orientation was not at all germane to the joke. Aranka's mentioning of her bisexuality in the other thread was equally public, but it was relevant.

At this point, I should mention that as a licensed warlight psychiatrist, I am available to Aranka in case she wants to correct her perverted sexuality. My method has success rates even better than the "pray away the gay" strategy, and with 7% fewer suicides.

That is how your sell your services ;) Another lesson in getting strangers into bed from Professor Cat • Apex.

I didn't intend to imply that, the method I was referring to involves electroshock, waterboarding and operant (Pavlovian) conditioning. The method you are referring to also involves these things, but has a suicide rate that is 7% higher.

Also, I don't charge for that method.

Ever the gentleman.

I half understand your apology. But if you think the reference to Italy was supposed to be funny I have to disagree. The way Italian people feel women and even more so if this stereotype is enforced through politics is degrading. I'm sure Italy has tons of talented intelligent female politicians but their carreers are made a mockery by these images.

@W-Apex - I have no intention to be cured from my "ilness", since I'm happy as I am. Furthermore everyone talks about me being a lesbian but I'm actually bi and uhm.....If I so needed I'll rather see a REAL shrimp.

Exotic dancers in italian politics? 0_0

It was Silvio Berlusconi's most popular legislation I think :/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversies_surrounding_Silvio_Berlusconi#Ruby_Rubacuori

Aranka, I am a real shrimp :'(

Unfortunatly femals are still discriminated and not treated as the same levels of men. Especially in souht Italy where you can find quite often a sort of patriarchy with the anexed domestic violence.
I never said that there aren't tons of intelligent talented women, but there are also a lot of examples (and the parliment is the apex of that) where females prefer to suck the right c**k (excuse me for being mean, but i really hate when they sell themselves like that, and than preteting to not be treated the same! should show more dignity as long as we can't hope for males to become all gentlmens) and reach the top, living in luxury surrounded by important people, instead of trying with their intellectual capacities. And italian parliment is the perfect example of how a lot of women preferred to GIVE head instead of USE it.

Haha, the thread is funny from a neutral perspective. It's interesting to observe how fixation on sexual orientation can drive the topic off the road taken beforehand. Seriously, count how many posts it took to make the topic completely detached from the name of that thread. From now on I'll call it "Late night warlight show with Atanka" :)

On a sidenote it is really interesting how is it possible for Aranka to get so quickly such a negative fanbase or, to call it for short, hatebase. Is it because "internut is not for gurls", or are there deeper issues that make some people feel intimidated by her? Go, go, warlight forum dogs, feast on this thread!

deep fan base

Are we reading the same thread? Red was the only person to say something against Aranka, yet apparently meant it as a joke. I see no haters, just a few people making jokes about the situation (which I interpreted all to be lighthearted with no hurt intended).

deep hate* base

I agree with Arun, I see no hatebase. Also, sorry for changing the topic to Aranka, but that is more interesting than any of this boring ladder clan wahtevr nonsesnce zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

I never said it was bad that the topics were switched, I only stated it was interesting.