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True Story:: 9/22/2014 12:29:52

Elroi{IL}
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Racial superiority. I do not care they think they are the superior race ... What bothers me whom they should be the only race in the world.
So obviously it's racism ... and if you have ever been a racist incident is not a racist mouth, but is a superior race right?

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True Story:: 9/22/2014 12:32:08

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Not racial, germanic supremacy.
Again germans aren't a race of their own. They're not even an ethnicity, they're a nationality.

Nazism started as a pan-nationalist political movement, their goal was to get back their old territories they had lost. Pan-Germanism etc.

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For crying out loud stop mixing up the modern neo-nazism with how things were 70-80 years ago. Modern neo-nazism is a joke and a bad one.

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True Story:: 9/22/2014 12:33:26

Elroi{IL}
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So according to which the German nation to be the only one and rule the world ... there is almost no difference
True Story:: 9/22/2014 12:34:30

Silver 
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I said earlier I'm nit picking the subject. There IS a difference even if it's a small one.
True Story:: 9/22/2014 12:35:50


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ive seen a few people on here with swastikas in their name, who try to defend themselves when the rest of the players make fun of him.

my favorite line from them is "you just dont get it" lolol
True Story:: 9/22/2014 12:41:37


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Dear Silver, now that you aware of that article I recommend you to read it.

That Hitler was a racist is not only a popular view, its also a scientific fact.
That history is written by the winners has nothing to do with that. The written history by the winners involves whitewashing their own history, but in this context it means downplaying their own racism. Hitler wasnt the only racist and racism and antisemitism was popular in all europe at that time. Racial supremacy which was the ideological basis for colonialism can be found in many (not only) european nations as well and is in its very nature racist. I hoped reading the definition in that article you made clear that you aware of, would clarify that, but somehow you still failed to acknowledge it.

Also Elroi, my mistake, you can't participate because you're a jew like I said earlier. You can't participate becaue you're stupid. There. Fixed.


At least you can see now, that your comment was in truth racist and I have no more problem with how you fixed it.

Elaborating on your last part, I have to say that I never mentioned German, German nation or German tribes in privious posts, nor I did dispute that Germans are an ethnicity. They can be considered an ethnic group but the ethnicity they are part of is bigger, yes.

The rest you wrote is pretty silly ad hominem argumentation.

Consider everything bold. You still have a lot to learn and I am not the worst teacher you can get.
True Story:: 9/22/2014 12:41:52

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Yeah and they deserve to be ridiculed for that to be fair.
I'm quite sure they have no clue how things really roll.

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scientific fact.

Get out of here. Haha. :D

Colonialism was all about nationality and not race.
You wanted to say slavery perhaps?

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True Story:: 9/22/2014 12:52:05


Gundisalvus 
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Wow. I leave the forums for six hours and this happens
True Story:: 9/22/2014 12:53:46

Elroi{IL}
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So he was not a racist, he just hates everyone except his nationality ... it even worse,
True Story:: 9/22/2014 12:54:22

Silver 
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I'm sorry my mistake bringing slavery into this.
Slavery as a whole has nothing to do with race either. Sure at one point in history it did. But it still has a lot more to do with nationality than race.
White man has been a slave to a white man, as has a black man been a slave to a black man.

In fact even today sexual slavery is common and has nothing to do with race. Or nationality either to be fair. So that's bad example, but still proves that even slavery isn't about race.

EDIT:
So he was not a racist, he just hates everyone except his nationality ... it even worse,

The fuck, I never said he was a great man that everyone had to admire.
He was a horrible human being, but before his downfall he actually helped his country a lot, I'm talking about the economical side of course.

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True Story:: 9/22/2014 13:02:52


myhandisonfire 
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Ah come on Silver, read a book or two.
I come to believe that you know much less than you believe you do. Perhaps your arrogance is preventing you from noticing.

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scientific fact.


Get out of here. Haha. :D


Yes, scientific fact.
Here something you are aware of (since you know all the Wikipedia articles already), I am going to link them to you, because I am not going to go into detail about the most basic of facts:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_policy_of_Nazi_Germany

When I write colonialism , I mean colonialism. I don`t mean slavery. Had I wanted to say slavery I would have wrote slavery.

The moral justification for colonialism was racial superiority, that includes slavery if you so wish. It was a popular belief that the European nations were superior to the African. Despite their national differences the Europeans coincided when it came to the racial inferiority of the African people.
True Story:: 9/22/2014 13:03:24

Elroi{IL}
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Grammatically, you're right, but realized that he still considered racist.
True Story:: 9/22/2014 13:08:25

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No, there was no moral justification.
If there were one it wouldn't be about race it would be about economy and perhaps just racing to flag a piece of land before the neighbours do it.

Also what you linked can be more or less summed up as this:
Post war winner propaganda. Prove me wrong.

Also:
About 10,000 Japanese nationals (mostly diplomats and military officials) residing in Germany were given "Honorary Aryan" citizenship with more privileges than any other "non-Aryan" ethnonational group.

So much for your link. It was all propaganda, from both sides. It wasn't about race it was about nationality. "Aryan" was basically code word for german and had nothing to do with genetics.
Nazi policy stressed the superiority of the Nordic race, a sub-section of the white European population defined by the measurement of the size and proportions of the human body models of racial difference.[40] From 1940 the Nazis in General Government(occupied Poland) divided the population into different groups.[41] Each group had different rights, food rations, allowed strips in the cities, separated residential areas, special schooling systems, public transportation and restricted restaurants. Later adapted in all Nazi-occupied countries by 1942, the Germanization program used the racial caste system of reserving certain rights to one group and barred privileges to another. Ethnic Poles were believed by Hitler to be "biologically inferior race" that could never be educated or elevated through Germanization[42] During the occupation of Poland, the Nazis kept an eye out for children with Nordic racial characteristics, those among them found to be classified as "racially valuable" were sent from here to the German Reich for adoption and to be raised as Germans, those who failed the tests would be used as slaves or murdered in medical experiments.[43]

That's even more BS.
You don't go around making japanese "aryan" and at the same time keep an eye out for great nordic racial characteristics. Hitler himself had probably none.
As I said it was war propaganda from both sides.

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True Story:: 9/22/2014 13:12:21

Elroi{IL}
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Do not you think he should suck up to the Japanese that they fought in the United States?
As a member of Stalin and then he attacked him Bbbrosh operation.
True Story:: 9/22/2014 13:16:33

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They were allied?

Also:
Germanization also affected the Sorbs, the minority Slav community living in Saxony and Brandenburg, whose Slavic culture and language was suppressed to absorb them into German identity.

Just to show you how it was done.
Slavs have bad genetics and are sub human!
Lets absorb those slavs over there!

It's all hypocritical BS for me and all about nationality and not race.
True Story:: 9/22/2014 13:16:47


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About 10,000 Japanese nationals (mostly diplomats and military officials) residing in Germany were given "Honorary Aryan" citizenship with more privileges than any other "non-Aryan" ethnonational group.


Are you really that closedminded? Cant you see your the flaws in your logic?
Giving someone "Honorary Aryan" citizenship with more privileges must imply that you have a racist society that has multiple levels of citizenship based on ethnicity or race.

As for your point that other interests coincided with, lead to, or went contrary to the racist Agenda of Nazi germany, Colonialism or nowadays racist phenomenons, yes.
Without doubt. I never disputed that, nor would I. But that still means that racism is a reality.

So I will log out of this nonsense, since I get not paid for clarifying your wrong conclusions.
True Story:: 9/22/2014 13:17:38

Elroi{IL}
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This is not true, many Jews were blond, I have relatives blond.
It was the look that was by the descendants of the German nation.
For example, according to their filter had to kill Hitler.
Obviously Japan was Germany's ally

Edited 9/22/2014 13:18:55
True Story:: 9/22/2014 13:18:15


AbsolutelyEthan 
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ok, this is getting dumb. neither of you think he was a good person, so can we all just go to sleep now?
True Story:: 9/22/2014 13:21:13

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Then they weren't jews, or were only by religion.
Jews by definition descent from the hebrews do they not?

There's jew ethniticy and then there's the religion.

Giving someone "Honorary Aryan" citizenship with more privileges must imply that you have a racist society that has multiple levels of citizenship based on ethnicity or race.

No it doesn't have to imply that.
Different levels of citizenship doesn't mean racism by default. Again you call everything you see racist.

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True Story:: 9/22/2014 13:22:18

Elroi{IL}
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Most of the Jews in Germany were atheists and assimilated with the German company
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