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He4She played one game and is level 5. This was a 3 Player FFA. Lawlz is a high enough level to give her 4 levels in one game. Maybe another alt was in it

Lawlz, the Lord, and this person are all from New Jersey.

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The Lord i am tired of repeating this to you. I never said Villar was a misogynist. I said that her quote in the context of OP's post is mysoginistic. I don't know Villar and it absolutely doesn't matter in my argument.

Tell one more time how tired you are, and maybe we will take you seriously.

You dont't need to know Villar personally, but you should understand what she is saying if you wnat to criticize her text (which OP quoted without misrepresentation). What you are saying is that criticism of feminism, even if valid, is always misogyny.

But then you go on to suggest that Villar's text shouldn't be quoted here, because it can be understood as criticism of feminism, and therefore giving ammunition to anti-feminists. Why do you think that is bad? Do you think feminism should be above all criticism?

i didn't say the quote shouldn't be posted here. i asked why you would conflate it with a campaign for equality if you weren't a misogynist.

i think misogynists on the internet cherry-pick absurd feminist tracts to portray feminism as absurd. as a consequence, many people consider feminism to be something bad, which harms the advancement of equality.

i don't think there's any point in criticising the works of an irrelevant academic, that you only brought up because they were so bad. that's helpful to nobody. i bet you OP didn't find that while he was out harmlessly surfing the world wide web. it was probably posted on some antifem hole, like /pol/ or some MRA subreddit. i bet you the works of whatever her name was are read and studied by more antifeminists than feminists.

tl;dr a lovely example of strawmen

For the last time: OP did not misrepresent what Villar wanted to say.

no, that's because she already gave them enough rope.

tell me though, what do her ideas have to do with this campaign op is trying to tarnish?

Edited 4/11/2015 20:32:46

What you are saying is that criticism of feminism, even if valid, is always misogyny.

Yeah right, i totally said that, in that alternate universe you live in. Not in this thread though

What you are saying is that criticism of feminism, even if valid, is always misogyny.

>unnecessary rewording of a perfectly simple and understandable comment
>not a strawman
pick one

You think that using feminist arguments or statements against feminism is misogyny.

What you are saying here is that criticism of feminism is misogyny, regardless of arguments.

Saying that all critics of a particular ideology are misogynists/fascists/communists is dishonest

What 123ch456 is doing is saying that

But then you go on to suggest that

>hitting the strawman this hard
learn some new fallacies m80

Edited 4/11/2015 20:44:52

also, nothing in OP's quote has anything to do with feminism. maybe that author is a feminist, but the stuff in OP's quote is just philosophy or sociology. and it does skirt misogyny, certainly if it is intended to apply to modern-day first world countries, where women are usually more-or-less intellectual equals of men.

Kill the thread

you just revived it, congratz

feminism = facism
male dominance = stupidity.

stupidity v. facism, which is worse?

i didn't say the quote shouldn't be posted here. i asked why you would conflate it with a campaign for equality if you weren't a misogynist.

Precisely. Conflating a text written by a feminist to criticize feminism is misogyny, because, you know, criticism of feminism equals misogyny. You always find some excuse to call it misogyny, just like your misguided friend ch, yet you vehemently deny it.

i think misogynists on the internet cherry-pick absurd feminist tracts to portray feminism as absurd. as a consequence, many people consider feminism to be something bad, which harms the advancement of equality.

So a critic of feminism quotes a feminist talking about women, does not misrepresent what she is saying, and you call that cherry picking. And of course, the critic of feminism must be a misogynist, as you cannot distinguish between a gender and an ideology. What happened to your ideas about everyone needing to take criticism? You just hate it when somebody criticizes feminism, so you paint them as evil misogynists. You talk a lot about strawmen, that must be because you use them incessantly.

i bet you OP didn't find that while he was out harmlessly surfing the world wide web. it was probably posted on some antifem hole, like /pol/ or some MRA subreddit. i bet you the works of whatever her name was are read and studied by more antifeminists than feminists.

So if you cannot attack the message, attack the messenger, right? A surefire way to spot someone who knows they have lost the argument. I am not OP. Try harder.

tell me though, what do her ideas have to do with this campaign op is trying to tarnish?

I interpret it similarly to Beren. It was a fake display of female powerlessness, in order to get men do all the work for women. HeForShe, after all.

Anyway, this is the last comment I have for this thread. Not much more to say if all I'm going to hear that everyone who dares to criticize feminism is an evil misogynist white hetero cis-gender male pig.

So, to sum up this thread...

I hate you, X (not you x)

No, I hate YOU more!

Silly billy, I HATE YOU MORE!

 Hey guys, y'know I think we should try to have more comedic debate sess- 

SHUT UP CODE!

• Ready to start the debate now?

Tsh, don't bring me into this (I'm big X).

Women are better off than men in Saudi Arabia...

Men are obligated by law to use their income to support their wives. Most women that can be bothered to work, just spend it on shoes and make-up.

Also, most places like shopping malls and theme parks are made just for women. Men cannot go in. I heard they even might build a whole city just for women.

That's feminism if anything is...

are you an Isis Recruiter, Colonel?

Not to mention that women can't drive or go anywhere without a man in Arabia.

Great sex equality.

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