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Richard Sharpe 
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ps, not quite right.

Typically, B is for bytes, kB is for 1000 bytes and KB is for 1024 bytes (sometimes this just uses K or KiB). For bits, it is typically b and kb.

Common usage of kilobytes is the 1000 method (kB), hence your 50 gig hard drive only actually having 46 Gigabytes (50,000,000,000 bytes = 46.5GB)
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Жұқтыру
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First man on the moon


Right

Most Men on the moon


Right

Reviving both Russian and British industry after the start of WW2


Really wrong, this is what they teach you in schools? I'm not so sure about Britain, but Stalin had already industrialised the hell out of Russia.

First man in flight


Wrong. First man to fly higher than where he started from is Jean Bris, French in 1853.

Assembly line

Wrong. Chinese (Ming Dynasty)

The Most Valued Economic Centre


Subjective.

First Successful Nuclear Reactor


Wrong. Gabon.

Is credited with dismantling the british empire after WW2


Yes, America and Britain then fought a long and bloody war after the second world war that lasted 15 years, and ended in the British defeat.

Fastest Economic Revitalization Rate

Wrong. Equatorial Guinea did that.

First country to enforce prison reform

Wrong. Britain did that.

Spearhead of NATO


Right, but is that a good thing?

Invention of the Internet


Right.

Cell Phones


Right.

Telegraph


Wrong, German (First)/English (Modern)

The largest railroad and road system of any country


What's more important is rail density. Australia wins at that (insert Thomas 633 picture).

The Panama Canal(largest ever constructed canal and trade center)


Wrong. Not a trade hub (Ciudad de Panamá is not that important) and French and not going to be the biggest for long.

First modern submarine


French.

Trans Atlantic Cable communication


Right.

Steamship.


Wrong. French.

Transcontinental railroad


Ha, what? This is so insignificant...and wrong as well. Panama did this.

First skyscraper


Wrong. Roman.

First lightbulb


Wrong. British.

First mass production


Wrong. Chinese (Eastern Zhou)

So out of all the achievements you listed, only 6 or 7 are true. And like Apollo said, do you really want to list all the British, French, German, Russian and world achievements?
warlight suspension times: 6/3/2015 15:07:50


Жұқтыру
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Polish achievements:

Arguably freest major country in 1500s-1700s Europe (Sweden could take the position, though)
Oscypek cheese
Sękacz (if you like pinecone cakes)
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Angry Koala
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Polish achievements:

>>>Polandballs
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Major General Smedley Butler
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Vienna#Battle
Jan Sobieski lead 3000 Polish winged Hussars along with 15000 other cavalry. This is the largest cavalry charge in history, completely demoralized the Ottoman forces, defeated a numerically superior Ottoman force, stopped Ottoman conquest of Vienna and in the ensuing war the Ottoman Empire lost almost all of Hungary. 'Oland f*** yeah!
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Thomas 633
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oh and america partially f***ed up the middle east along with britain, by randomly throwing themselves around
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Genghis 
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Polen : Europe 's hero and its plumber.

Except, Vlad Tepes and his Romanian brothers did that. A lot.
warlight suspension times: 6/4/2015 00:45:41

RvW 
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> > Russia won the space race.
> Only if you count either going into space first, or sending a man into space first as
> winning the space first. America got to the moon first, so it could be said America beat
> Russia in the space race.

Russia's victories:
  • First object in space
  • First living animal in space
  • First person in space
  • First person in orbit
    (Incidentally: Gagarin's first flight into space was also his first orbital flight; America's first person in space, John Glenn, didn't get near an actual orbit on his first flight, landing a couple hundred kilometres away.)
  • First space station

America's victories:
  • First person on the moon

Yeah, I'm kinda partial to the whole "Russia won" point of view...



> 1kb is always 1024 bytes.

No, if only it were that easy (and consistent). Essentially, it depends on what you're doing; whether the "carrier" technology is based on "successive doubling".
For instance, when you look at how much RAM there is in your computer, those chips have storage capacities in powers of two, so 4 GB of RAM is 4 * 1024 * 1024 * 1024 bytes.
But when you push them through a wire one at a time, your Gb/s is 1000 * 1000 * 1000 bits per second.
On hard disks (those round disks have no real reason to work in powers of two), powers of two and powers of ten are used depending on whether you're an operating system (allocating space goes in powers of two; might as well report total capacity that way too) or a manufacturer (1000 < 1024, so if you use powers of ten, you can claim a larger capacity).
It's a terrible mess... but a mess which has absolutely nothing to do with "metric vs. imperial".

> when we are talking of scales of bits we type kbits not kb. kb is for kilobytes.

Technically, it goes like this:
kb = kilobit
kB = kilobyte
Kb = nonsense
KB = nonsense
mb = millibit (= nonsense; a bit can't be subdivided)
Mb = megabit
MB = megabyte

Of course a case could be made to always write either "kB" or "kbit" (read: never write "kb"). After all, it is more important to make sure to be understood than it is to be technically correct... but cause confusion (or even misunderstanding) in the process.



> Oldest still inhabited city in North America. (St. Augustine i think).

That's a pretty lame "accomplishment", since virtually all other countries in the world (you know, all of them, except for Mexico and Canada) have no way of building a city in North America. What's next, "first to invent the US dollar"...!?



> First country to enforce prison reform

What on Earth are you talking about? I'm sure there must've been "prison reforms" in other countries around the world before America was even discovered.

Even though I'm not particularly sure what you're talking about exactly, the US prison system is an outright disgrace. Most people come out far more violent and criminal than they were when they entered. The percentage of released prisoners which come back for another sentence is incredibly high. And that's not even talking about the question if they get out again; murder rates are frightening and (as one of very few "civilised" countries) the US still has the death penalty.

Go watch http://www.ted.com/talks/bryan_stevenson_we_need_to_talk_about_an_injustice and then tell me again what's so great about US prisons...



> The largest railroad and road system of any country

If your (rail)roads are so great, why is air travel so insanely popular?

Besides, it's not too impressive if you stop and think about how simply being among the biggest countries gets you this almost automatically (if it's even true, both Russia and China would seem to be credible competitors). I'm curious what would happen if we'd compare the US rail system with the EU rail system (very roughly speaking, that'd be comparing a similarly-ish area with a similarly-ish population; much more fair than looking "per country").



> Transcontinental railroad

ROTFL, have you ever heard of the Orient Express (London - Istanbul)? Or even better, the Trans-Siberia Express (Moscow - Vladivostok), which covers 10.000 km (and half a dozen time zones :p ). For comparison, New York to Los Angeles is a measly 4000 km.



TL;DR:
The thing the US really excels at is teaching their own population how awesome it is. While many people are proud of their country, few feel so strongly about it as Americans seem to do. I for one think it's a good thing to realise your country is not perfect; how are you going to make improvements if you are blind to shortcomings...!?
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Жұқтыру
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To expand:

Union's space victories:

  • First object in space (Sputnik-1, 1957)
  • First living animal in space (Laika, 1957)
  • First manmade object to orbit the Sun (Luna-1, 1959)
  • First Moon impact (Luna-2, 1959)
  • First human in space (Yuri Gagarin, 1961)
  • First spacewalk (Aleksei Leonov, 1965)
  • First Venus impact (Venus-3, 1965)
  • First Moon softlanding (Luna-9, 1966)
  • First Moon orbit (Luna-10, 1966)
  • First controlled spacecraft docking (Soyuz-4 and -5, 1968)
  • First spacestation (Mir, 1986)
  • Longest manned spaceflight to date (Valery Polyakov, 1994-1995)

America's space victories:

  • First weather satellite (Tiros-1, 1960)
  • First camera spy satellite (Discoverer-14, 1960)
  • First humans on the Moon (Neil Armstrong and Edwin Aldrin, 1969)


Edited 6/4/2015 01:25:30
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Genghis 
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Well, i actually kept it humble. I believe st. Augustine is actually the oldest city in the western hemisphere. Kudos to Spain for founding it.

We should keep the death sentence. However, we shoulder cut the "humane" crap. There's nothing humane about being killed by something you're afraid of by the age of 4. A needle. We should have execution by shutting down the brain as fast as possible, with as little blood as possible, as cheap as possible.

Also, whose with me in reviving Hammurabi's code of laws? Thieves get their hands cut off! Son, respect your abusive parents!
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Жұқтыру
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What are you talking about? Did you forget Ciudad de México and Quito? Founded by aborigines?

Also, the Western Hemisphere is biggest than you think. I'd say at a guess, Toledum is the oldest town in the Western Hemisphere.
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Lawlz
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Can y'all quit measuring dick sizes? Russia and the US both have significant space achievements. More than the rest of the world can say, so just leave it at "Congrats both of you"
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Thomas 633
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er...

Also Skylab was before Mir... but then the soviets had all those unsafe ones before that...
*nitpicking ends*
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RvW 
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We should keep the death sentence. However, we shoulder cut the "humane" crap. There's nothing humane about being killed by something you're afraid of by the age of 4.

I say again, watch http://www.ted.com/talks/bryan_stevenson_we_need_to_talk_about_an_injustice
If you can't spare 20 minutes, just skip ahead to 8:10 and see:
The other way of thinking about [the death penalty] is not "Do people deserve to die for the crimes they commit?" but "Do we deserve to kill?". I mean, it's fascinating, death penalty in America is defined by error. For every nine people who have been executed, we've actually identified one innocent person who's been exonerated and released from death row. A kind of astonishing error rate; one out of nine people, innocent. I mean, it's fascinating... in aviation we would never let people fly on air planes if for every nine air planes that took off, one would crash...

Now, I would still be against the death penalty (or any other form of corporal punishment, for that matter) even if there'd be some magical way to ensure nobody is ever murdered (what else would you call the killing of an innocent person?), but with such ridiculous sloppiness... Hell no, abolish it today.

According to http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/executions-year there have been 1409 executions (not convictions, actual executions) from 1976 to 2015. So, that would work out to roughly 150 innocent people having been about to be murdered by the US government, saved in the nick of time by lawyers going above and beyond in an attempt to save them. What's worse, realistically speaking, not all innocents HAVE been saved; there's no way to put a number on it, but there have definitely been people executed for crimes they didn't commit. How can you possibly be in favour of a system like that...!?
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l4v.r0v 
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ITT: Post pictures of people from your country walking on the moon.

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RvW 
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knyte, if the "accusation" is something along the lines of "Sure, the USA was the first (and so far, only) country to put a man on the moon... but that's pretty much their only noteworthy achievement.", how does establishing that, in fact, the USA was indeed the only country to put a man on the moon help the argument at all...?
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Shini LL of the H
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i love it how you people took a simple question and turned it into a death battle of something i've lost track of.
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[REGL] Pooh 
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Next week. Do you want it to be longer?
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Shini LL of the H
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no it doesn't really matter just wanted to be sure but im taking some time off anyway
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Thomas 633
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Found a picture of an Aussie on the moon:
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