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Don't Mess With The Royal Falcons: 7/16/2015 23:55:10


Benjamin628 
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@FK There will be dead pigs rolling around in that mud xD
Don't Mess With The Royal Falcons: 7/17/2015 00:08:13


Scotty 
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Woah! I just found Internet Explorer on my computer!

I didn't know they still made that.




...Sorry. This thread just made my troll trigger itchy.
Don't Mess With The Royal Falcons: 7/17/2015 02:39:57


Thomas 633
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And why was that nessacary? Also we had a trial and Colonel lost his job.
Don't Mess With The Royal Falcons: 7/17/2015 02:43:00


l4v.r0v 
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To my knowledge, Colonel has lost his MR within the clan. I wouldn't take him seriously as a representative of the Falcons for the time being.
Don't Mess With The Royal Falcons: 7/17/2015 02:49:38


Benjamin628 
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I would, he's still in the clan. If I did something like this multiple times (and then express hate for the LGBT community) I would be kicked.

If he lost his job, kick him out.
Don't Mess With The Royal Falcons: 7/17/2015 03:07:50


l4v.r0v 
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Speaking from experience, some clans have a lengthy process they go through before kicking people out (which makes sense to some degree- you want to give your members a feeling of security and the knowledge that the clan will stand by them when they need its support).

I'm pretty sure most Falcons aren't that fond of him. Just wait a while, and don't blame the clan for his inanity.

Just my $0.02.
Don't Mess With The Royal Falcons: 7/17/2015 04:48:41


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If the Falcons wanted to be known as a respectable clan, they would remove people who are not respectable. It's really as simple as that. As long as they allow their clan icon to be on Colonel's name, they are essentially endorsing whatever nonsense that he is spouting.

I'm looking at you Thomas. Is your clan going to be one of the respectable clans or not?
Don't Mess With The Royal Falcons: 7/17/2015 05:00:49


l4v.r0v 
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When your clan is as large as the Falcons, it's tough to tell who's respectable and who isn't until you see them cross the line. Sometimes players you thought were respectable end up being horrible people you don't want to do anything with.

In CORP, when that happens, we do a Council vote to kick them out. This is generally accompanied by efforts to make sure that the general member body agrees and understands what's going on. Unfortunately, both of these things take a little bit of time and also make it kind of odd when we kick out players like Loli a week after they do stupid things.

(For us, Loli was on the clanwide blacklist well before he was kicked out of the clan, just because it took time for us to vote him out but not much time for the blacklist- maintained by one person- to deem him someone not worth playing with.)

Similarly, I don't think that the fact that the Falcons haven't kicked out Harthacanute yet is that worrying. Give them some time- I also think it's better for member-kicking to be a slow, deliberate process, because it's not always obvious that someone needs to be kicked from the clan.

Honestly, it's more worrying that they've had players like Kellen in the clan for so long. I wish we'd seen this sort of outcry about Kellen because a perpetual troll like Kellen is certainly a lot worse than an overzealous recruiter who decides to spam one day.
Don't Mess With The Royal Falcons: 7/17/2015 05:04:17


Thomas 633
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We voted on Kellen and booted him 10-1. We held a vote on Colonel where one of the options was expulsion, and the general consensus was that he would be given a lowerlevel job.
Don't Mess With The Royal Falcons: 7/17/2015 05:37:33


l4v.r0v 
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Ah. Just noticed that Kellen was out. Also, your council is pretty large. For us it's 6 + a Shogun with veto power. We have an even number to make it harder for resolutions to pass than fail.
Don't Mess With The Royal Falcons: 7/17/2015 09:15:08


[EIC] Cade
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Hello Everyone,

Speaking on the behalf of the Falcons and Colonel. We are sorry that this was spammed across 3 different boards and we hope you will forgive us. (As most people hate spam)

The Falcons are looking to become a respectable, we have already kicked Kellen, who is not liked throughout the clans. Colonel has lost his manager rights and his job as Crown Prince. Some people would like to kick Colonel as he is causing quite a bit of trouble with the other political party.

But I personally think he would never be kicked because of who he is even though he has lost his position.

Edited 7/17/2015 09:24:14
Don't Mess With The Royal Falcons: 7/17/2015 10:29:32


Thomas 633
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Nah it needed to be said.
Don't Mess With The Royal Falcons: 7/17/2015 11:12:41


[WL] Colonel Harthacanute
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The truth is some trolls are good at WarLight.

I do not represent the majority of the Falcons, however I am responsible for a vast portion of the clan's external affairs.
Don't Mess With The Royal Falcons: 7/17/2015 11:14:11


[EIC] Cade
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@Colonel Harthacanute

Thats why people hate us.
Don't Mess With The Royal Falcons: 7/17/2015 11:14:17


Ox
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So this is what we looked like...
Don't Mess With The Royal Falcons: 7/17/2015 11:29:01


[EIC] Cade
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Sorry what?
Don't Mess With The Royal Falcons: 7/17/2015 13:43:48


Nex
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All this talk of 'council' 'voting' is strange to me. If I see someone making unacceptable behavior in the forums, I kick them without a second thought.

'Voting' is an alien term. And it doesn't seem to be very useful...
Don't Mess With The Royal Falcons: 7/17/2015 14:53:29


Benjamin628 
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+1 Dr. Stupid & FK

If this guy were in AWF (or any other respected clan) he would get the boot.
Don't Mess With The Royal Falcons: 7/17/2015 18:42:41


l4v.r0v 
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It's been pretty useful to us so far. We've had a very active council that's been responsible for most of the improvements in the clan in the past two months. Voting is just a mechanism we use to make sure that we don't screw up and kick out a good member who just had a bad day.

Personally, these forums are nigh-useless anyway outside the Clan League Thread (and a few others like that). If I pulled a Colonel tomorrow and started spamming the forums, the voting mechanism would at least guarantee that someone would stop and think about whether a one-time action of spamming the forums (4 whole threads!) so significantly outweighs my participation in the clan.

So I'm going to set down my pitchfork for now. Colonel is an idiot, but the forums weren't a scenic environment without him anyway. If I were the Falcons and had reason to believe that I would benefit significantly from his continued membership in the clan (e.g., if he's the only guy with the time to create their inter-clan games), then I too would hesitate before kicking him out even if it lost me the title of "respected clan."

I've always held that the game itself matters vastly more than the forums. The forums aren't even that big a part of the metagame.

EDIT:

Even better. Here's a concrete example of why we have a voting system:

Genghis and Loli (and probalby a few others) are accusing me of operating an alt and using it as a forum troll. That easily meets the criterion of "spamming the forums." (https://www.warlight.net/Forum/100480-night-night-busted)

Guess CORP should boot me, then. Or maybe, just maybe, there's a mechanism by which they can delibeate over whether or not these accusation are true and whether or not (had I used an alt to troll the forums) it would be bad enough of an offense to kick me from the clan.

Voting/Council systems are very useful when you're trying to distribute management or handle cases that aren't perfectly open-and-shut. Yes, they have drawbacks with players like Loli, but they at least let you verify that certain actions need to be taken and are in the best interests of the clan.

Edited 7/17/2015 23:07:54
Don't Mess With The Royal Falcons: 7/18/2015 01:12:03


Thomas 633
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The irony is that loli isn't posting pornographic anime anymore...
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