What's up with bringing up Japan? You have to be very misguided to say those bombs were uncalled for.

Reasons?

1. All's fair in love and war.
2. Unit 731
3. Would have been one, but they were too stubborn.
4. DEATH MARCH!
5. Did the Japanese really respect U.S. prisoners?
6. They attacked FIRST.
7. They had plans of gassing the West Coast like the Germans did Ypres.

Yeah. Japan "so" didn't deserve those bombs...fucking idiots.

Oh and our gun laws? Perfectly fine. Congress want's no Second Amendments, is that right? No. Outlawing guns won't make the nation more peaceful, rather more dangerous. Really, would the Killer down the block say "Oh my gun is illegal, gotta turn it in."?

Guns save more lives than kill. Something like 80% of self defense cases where defenders had guns just involved them firing a warning shot without any blood. Much more efficient than police.

Yep. But in case you didn't get my point, the Criminal won't turn his gun in cause the Police said so. So he will then rob your nice neighbor who worked for his whole life, and turned in his gun. In turn, your Neighbor is shot and killed, the Police become useless.

1. All's fair in love and war.

Yes, by your logic, 9/11 was acceptable and it was ok because the US already did many bad things.

What's up with bringing up Japan? You have to be very misguided to say those bombs were uncalled for.

Why is it that the fundamentals and fascists (not using this word as insult; politic stance) always begin their arguments with some kind of an insult and use them as supports further on? Just makes bad their name and politic stance/party. That, and so many rightists are dumb (truth not insult) since rightists typically come from the poorer areas with poorer schools.

1. All's fair in love and war.
2. Unit 731
3. Would have been one, but they were too stubborn.
4. DEATH MARCH!
5. Did the Japanese really respect U.S. prisoners?
6. They attacked FIRST.
7. They had plans of gassing the West Coast like the Germans did Ypres.

1. This negates all your other points if it's true. It's not, very often, love and war are very unfair.
2-7. Yes, these are warcrimes done by the Japanese empire. It was terrible, but you're too busy focusing on mostly the American side of things, which was considerably lighter than in China. So? A warcrime does not negate a warcrime. Haven't you heard some of Gandhi's quotes? This has been transcultural concept since millenia ago.

What is hateful to you, do not to your fellow man.
-Talmud
Do not unto others what you would not have them do unto you
-Analects
That nature alone is good which refrains from doing unto another whatsoever is not good for itself
-Dadistan-i-dinik

That remark about right wingers being less educated is utterly false. Many inner city schools in declining areas such as St. Louis and Detroit are heavily struggling to meet educational standards and generally serve liberal inclined people.

In addition, the number of conservatives in college is sizable. It merely appears low because the liberal atmosphere in most colleges causes many to be silent.

You may get an inclined school, but you're going to go to school and public schools can't pick. Lefts come from richer areas, so they can have better schools, maybe private.

"Sizeable" is not a descriptive word here; it needs to be relative. Depends on what university you go to, but yes, in general, leftists have more money to get good marks to get into higher education; I think this is even more seen in America and India, where universities aren't under 1000 €.

There are rough maps showing which politic party is favoured where; it's usually similar to maps of regional GDP per capita - subaverage is right, supaverage is left. I'd show you but on portable.

The USA is also hated by the English and the Canadians and the Australians and the kiwis and the South Africans because they say color not colour.

when this thread was started i thought: "just one more stupid thread, lets follow it"

Now that i see all of these comments by americans im thinking: "hat wrong with me, i really should hate america"

You may get an inclined school, but you're going to go to school and public schools can't pick. Lefts come from richer areas, so they can have better schools, maybe private.

"Sizeable" is not a descriptive word here; it needs to be relative. Depends on what university you go to, but yes, in general, leftists have more money to get good marks to get into higher education; I think this is even more seen in America and India, where universities aren't under 1000 €.

There are rough maps showing which politic party is favoured where; it's usually similar to maps of regional GDP per capita - subaverage is right, supaverage is left. I'd show you but on portable.

Again, untrue. Both the left and right political parties run based on money given by their respective rich supporters. The right tends to have a very large amount of successful businessmen, while the left is more support by celebrities and the like.

As for the average voter, also divided.



The jobs above are split between people who lean left, and people who lean right, yet most of them require a decent amount of education. How high are you setting the bar here?

So if all the liberals make more money then how are the republicans the big bad corporations that rig elections and want to steal from the poor (republicans) and give to the rich (liberals). yeah. most Liberal dogma doesn't make much sense when you get past the political speeches and emotion.

America is a melting pot. America is full of people from all around the world with different cultures and different ideologies so when you stereotype America you are actually stereotyping your own people. cheers.

#getrekt

The Republicans get their money from big oil and the rich, which is why they don't recognize global warming and they support tax cuts for the rich (like themselves and their donors).

I believe there is to much hate in this thread. Don't hate guys. Unplug your headphone, turn your volume to maximum and let all people in your neighborhod hear. I have a message for all of you in the following video that will make you cry and stick you all together:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1wLtAXDgqg

O! say can you see
by the dawn’s early light,
What so proudly we hailed
at the twilight’s last gleaming,
Whose broad stripes and bright stars
through the perilous fight,
O’er the ramparts we watched,
were so gallantly streaming?
And the rockets’ red glare,
the bombs bursting in air,
Gave proof through the night
that our flag was still there;
O! say does that star-spangled
banner yet wave,
O’er the land of the free
and the home of the brave?

On the shore dimly seen
through the mists of the deep,
Where the foe’s haughty host
in dread silence reposes,
What is that which the breeze,
o’er the towering steep,
As it fitfully blows,
half conceals, half discloses?
Now it catches the gleam
of the morning’s first beam,
In full glory reflected
now shines in the stream:
’Tis the star-spangled banner,
O! long may it wave
O’er the land of the free
and the home of the brave.

And where is that band
who so vauntingly swore
That the havoc of war
and the battle’s confusion,
A home and a country,
should leave us no more?
Their blood has washed out
their foul footsteps’ pollution.
No refuge could save
the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight,
or the gloom of the grave:
And the star-spangled banner
in triumph doth wave,
O’er the land of the free
and the home of the brave.


O! thus be it ever,
when freemen shall stand
Between their loved home
and the war’s desolation.
Blest with vict’ry and peace,
may the Heav’n rescued land
Praise the Power that hath made
and preserved us a nation!
Then conquer we must,
when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto:
„In God is our trust;“
And the star-spangled banner
in triumph shall wave
O’er the land of the free
and the home of the brave

Those that are at the top always get the hate? So ISIL are at the top?? #YoureDerangedM8

No one said you have to be at the top to receive hate. The point is that the one at the top is guaranteed to get it.

I merged income-per-head maps, though it's not perfect to represent since it's not distorting the map to have equal population density everywhere. Also, it's not perfect on my part, especially on Alaska and Hawaii, but I didn't want to spend more than a couple minutes. It's worth noting that since 1880, New York county (1/5 of the whole borough) has more population than the current populations of North Dakota and Wyoming combined. You get the point.

http://imgur.com/M7qZQL9

(Light/Dark colours: Poor/rich)
(Hot/Cold colours: Rightists/Leftists)

Here is a cartogram with equalised population density.


If someone can find American standard testing map by county to merge as well, that'd be great.

Edited 9/18/2015 03:08:56

Hardly. Al Qaeda was a decedent of the Mujaheddin from Afghanistan, you know, the guys were funded against the Soviets back when. So in truth, very far from war.

Name the "oh so" evil things the U.S. did PRIOR to 9/11?

Kuwait was in defense of Kuwait.

Again, Atom Bombs were called for.

Japanese in "Concentration Camps" was a precaution and yes it was wrong, but they were not gassed or mass murdered.

Vietnam/Korea was in defense of a Capitalistic Government and in the Cold War between the US and USSR.

Don't say jack shit about the "Native Americans" because many a genocide/war has occurred between two groups over land.

So what evil and bad things did the U.S. deserve for 9/11? The loss of millions of dollars in damage and 3,000 lives? Not to mention the unnecessary tighten of security in EVERY. FUCKING. PLACE.

The US destroying several republics during the Banana Wars, it's occupation of the Philipines after the Spanish-American war (the Filipinos fought for their independence prior to the US invasion), unethical medical experiments on its own people and soldiers, the supporting of multiple drug running dictatorships in Latin America, I will say fucking jack shit about the Native Americans, the Americans invaded, subjugated and lied to the Natives over about a century. And who was actually defending their lands against murderous invaders? The US also fueled the Iran-Iraq war, that killed hundreds of thousands, then betrayed Iraq.

actually they betrayed Iran in the short term. But most of the things you have listed were also done by spain and other countries.

Spain occupied the Philipines and treated the natives worse than the Americans. You talk about a century of american genocide but your gloss over the centuries of Spanish and Mexican genocide of the native americans.

This is also supported by the fact that native Americans were genocided before the American revolution and therefore, England also genocided native Americans.

What about the Slavic invasions of Europe that massacred the european population, stole their land, stole/raped their women, and sold their captives into slavery? What about the Mongols invasions of Asia and Europe? The Mongols killed thousands if not millions of non combatant men, women, and children and left little but desolation in their wake. What about the Opium wars, Boxor Rebellion, and other conflicts fought by european powers so they could take advantage of China? What about the Catholic and Orthodox Crusades that killed many muslims and christians alike for no purpose what so ever? What about the Turkish killing of millions of Armenians in the first great genocide of the 20th century?

I could go on forever about all the bs that other countries (mainly european) have done to the world that makes americans little "manifest destiny" look like a pretty picture. People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.