Thanks for the link. I'm just going to copy that one over with small modifications.

Old version is dead. New version can be found at http://wl1v1-clot.appspot.com/.

The description is not up to date but as long as it's playable it doesn't matter.
100days boot time is too much tough

Edited 11/3/2015 08:20:29

I'll edit the template. Forgot about those settings. Fixing the description as well.

"The supplied invite token is invalid. Please contact the CLOT author for assistance."

Looks awesome :)

I've joined to help test, and of course, play! :D

Time to beat up MoD some more ^_^

Was the game that I "lost" against Miles deleted? We were both actually kicked from the ladder. I think we should still be able to vote on some good templates, just with this one appearing like 2x more often.

Edited 11/3/2015 14:03:08

@Benjamin, that kinda defeats the purpose of resurrecting the old 1v1 ladder doesn't it?

Yes, but that was one of the problems of the old 1v1 ladder, and a major, major problem with the new---it gets boring. I will definitely still play this though.

Thing is, if you don't want to play the 1v1 ladder because you find it boring, then don't play it. There are going to be games that are interesting, and games that are an absolute borefest. But that's the deal with all templates - you get some good games and you get some bad.

Now, the new ladder is just more noticeable because people pick the same spots, and it's the same strategy every time. With the old ladder, you'd get more diversity and playing strategies.

So, if you find the ladder boring at any time, you can just leave. Same with the old, new and (I assume) this ladder.

Nice!! Now while you're at it, take a look at the ranking algo(assuming you're using the same) and fix it. It's a pesky bug which I'm not able to find :P

@burro: it might be because of your level; do you have a higher-level account you could try with?

This is the output when I call your account with the Validate Token API on the template this ladder uses:

u'template655094': {u'reasonCode': u'MultiAttackAndAttackByPercentageLocked', 
u'result': u'CannotUseTemplate'}

@Ben: the old version was entirely thrown out and replaced with one that's based on what MoD made (it's almost entirely his code on top of Fizzer's)

@MoD: I'll try to figure that one out; any details?

So the function calls in clot.py that use the TrueSkill library seem right. I'm going to simulate some ladders and see whether their behavior is affected by the initial mu-sigma setup or whether you need to change something else if you change initial mu sigma since I think that's the likely culprit (as it's the only big thing changed).

Edited 11/3/2015 18:29:57

How many games does it allot at a time?

1, I believe.

Yeah that changed. He included MotDs clot data. Up to 5 games possible

You can adjust the settings on the ladder page: http://wl1v1-clot.appspot.com/lot/5629499534213120

You can play up to 9 games actually :P

@knyte - The Trueskill library was acting funky after a significant number of games. The ratings don't seem to change much after 1000+ games on the CLOT. I can give you access to the other CLOT which has the repro, so you can investigate if you like.

Yeah, I'd appreciate that. I assume multi-day-ladder would be an example of that happening?

Also, is this an issue just for the players who've played a lot of games or for new players too?

I've also invited your GitHub account (the one you linked me to) to the GitHub group for all this so you can also fork repos into that if you'd like.

Edited 11/3/2015 19:03:24

Check PM. Thanks for the github invite. I'm a bit busy at the moment. Although I may contribute, once I free up.

It works very well so far! :)

Yes, it works great! Well done to all involved in the creation process, you also have my gratitude as I'm sure from the rest of the community too :)