Its only been about 60 years MAD has been around...in terms of historical epochs and eras its a small sample size. Its not a guaranteed law of course...so it really shouldn't be adopted as an actually useful foreign policy plan.

MAD likely won't hold. We've seen two nuclear powers go to war already.

It ended the war earlier and saved American lives. It shouldn't have come down to dropping the bomb in the first place but it happened.

It also arguably saved Japanese lives if it shortened the war (although again, this is very, very arguable since Japan didn't "unconditionally surrender" in the end anyhow and this requirement of "unconditional surrender" likely kept Japan fighting for so long despite having obviously lost).

just get rid of nukes and vote world peace.

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isnt the atom bombing the war crime?

Its like gases attack at WW1 but only one side can use it

Japanese did really bad things during WW2, but its not the case doing similar shit that you even dont know effects

https://youtu.be/g_n7vEG3bD0

look here a video about American nukes on Japan

look here a video about American nukes on Japan

That's exactly what I thought of Moldova. Like Romania but nuked to stone age.

https://youtu.be/CJgZZUIq6lw

this is a video with moldavian army

Yknow America bombed Afghanistan to the Stone Age. They were thankful for the tech upgrade.

The bombing was justified. My points were all expressed by others, rather succinctly too.
On a different note, does this same logic apply to ISIS (maybe not nukes, but intense bombing)?
I think it does, but I'm interested to hear your all's opinions.

Intense bombing wouldn't serve any purpose against ISIS. They won't come to the negotiating table.

The thing is that even saturation bombing like the stuff used on Dresden between February 13 and 15 of 1945 doesn't nearly produce the same casualties as atomic/hydrogen bombing. Its pointless to compare intense bombing vs. atomic bombing. RAF dropped 3900 tons of explosive material on Dresden in 72 hours...only killed a maximum of 25,000 people.

Hiroshima and Nagasaki killed 129,000 people. Simple math means that the RAF would have needed around 20,000 tons to produce the same number of casualties.

Those Japanese bastards deserved it. They killed my entire family. They should all rot in hell. We should assassinate the emperor. We need to build a wall

I agree that the United States should have dropped an atomic bomb on Japan. The biggest reason in my mind is not even listed, and it's the cruelty that Japan displayed throughout the war. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_war_crimes

The biggest reason for bombing someone is in retaliation due to their actions? I really disagree with this.
This sort of revenge mentality is never a good thing. 'An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind' and all that...

Hypothetically: if this was the sole reason for dropping the bombs I would say that the US would be very wrong in doing so.

But I don't think this was the main reason. As has been covered by the others, I do think it was necessary to swiftly end the war and save more lives in the long-run.

"Intense bombing wouldn't serve any purpose against ISIS. They won't come to the negotiating table."
The purpose isn't to bring them to the table, the purpose is to kill them.

@madmen
I wouldn't call it revenge, since they didn't do it to us, but to Chinese and others. It was mostly just to prevent war crimes from continuing. And the other reasons you acknowledged.
Although I do also disagree with your premise of 'an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.' Actually, it makes one person blind, and everyone else scared to pull nasty shit like that again.

@general, I respect your right to a point of view, but I disagree with the first point. many would believe forgive and forget is better than vengeance

That seems reasonable

Tbh, the US had every reason to drop the nukes, given the atrocities committed by Japan towards PoWs and even the civilians of China, the Philippines, and other countries invaded. To those who criticize the US on it, and demand war crimes be set on the US for it: Russia should have crimes against Humanity placed on it for the mass deaths to the USSR's people under Stalin, China should have crimes against humanity placed on it for the mass genocides committed in the name of Mao, Cambodia should have the same crime placed on it as China, and Turkey should have crime against humanity placed on it for the Armenian genocide.

Last but not least, Japan should have it's own war crimes, unit 731. What is this "Unit 731" you may ask? A Japanese biological and chemical warfare science team of 6 divisions, in over 7 facilities, who conducted experiments on human subjects. Not a corpse, a real, living, still breathing human. It is one thing to shoot someone, stab them, or hang them. But to cut them open to "observe their autonomy" while they still breath and feel the pain, is a crime against the very nature of humanity. To simply cut a major artery to watch a man bleed and "take notes" is worth of accusations. This unit war responsible for up to 250,000 civilian deaths, not even military. These included Men, Women, and Children. Women were raped and put through forced pregnancy, forced sex to transit STD's, human weapons testing, even testing of frostbite. Everything that we see as immoral, demonic, and simply disgusting. With these members being taken by the US and USSR for their own uses.

But do we hear the world calling for justice against Japan for this? No. Because America is this big bad influence on the world, where everyone is a fat bastard who loves drone bombing hospitals and schools.