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Needs some helps: 12/23/2015 18:49:22


Fan the Apostle
Level 56
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I need to decrease my boot rate by at least 1% each month

¿Any tips?


BTW I am not making a new account to avoid bootings
Needs some helps: 12/23/2015 18:54:37


Death 
Level 59
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Complete more games without getting booted.
Needs some helps: 12/23/2015 18:58:58


master of desaster 
Level 64
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You will never have a normal boot rate on that account. But yeah if you don't want to create a new one, playing games without getting booted is the only way to decrease that value
Needs some helps: 12/23/2015 19:00:52


MysteryManBall
Level 35
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Lotto's , lots of them....

@MoD , no-one has don't it before , doesn't mean its impossible
Needs some helps: 12/23/2015 19:04:55


Onoma94
Level 59
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In august, with 1k games played I had somewhere around 11%. Now with 2k it's 8%. So you have to play loads of games without getting booted at all.
Needs some helps: 12/23/2015 19:04:58


j willy 47
Level 58
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Just to get in down to 10 percent you'd have to play over 2300 total games. Get ready for a long wait :(
Needs some helps: 12/23/2015 19:07:31


Fan the Apostle
Level 56
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Challenge accepted.

1v1 me boot rate!
Needs some helps: 12/23/2015 19:25:11


Psychonaut
Level 57
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Yeah you'll need to play about 2,500 games in order to get it to anywhere close to normal... You're better off creating a new account no matter how reluctant you are..
Needs some helps: 12/23/2015 19:26:59


Benjamin628 
Level 59
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Benjamin628:

Joined WarLight: 9/13/2014
Member since 10/30/2015
Currently in 24 multi-day games
Played in 2944 multi-player games (18.3% real-time)
Last seen less than 15 minutes ago 
This player has been booted 280 times (9.5%)


:P

Edited 12/23/2015 19:27:11
Needs some helps: 12/23/2015 19:28:37


Psychonaut
Level 57
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War Doctor:

Joined WarLight: 11/25/2015
Currently in 21 multi-day games
Played in 261 multi-player games (58.2% real-time)
Last seen less than 15 minutes ago
This player has been booted 4 times (1.5%)

:P

(Since we're showing off now) xD

Edit: all four of my boots was when my internet went out unexpectantly on RT games

Edited 12/23/2015 19:34:45
Needs some helps: 12/23/2015 19:31:22

Ryzys
Level 57
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Joined WarLight: 6/4/2015
Currently in 14 multi-day games
Played in 1007 multi-player games (50% real-time)
Last seen less than 15 minutes ago
This player has been booted 22 times (2.1%)

:P

(Most of my boots are from games with short boot times (1d 10h), Warlight server issues and when I was sick in July)

Edited 12/23/2015 19:37:00
Needs some helps: 12/23/2015 19:56:14


Platinum
Level 58
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*Considering you will finish the following 14 multi-day games without getting booted

You will have finished 533 Multi-Day games, Getting booted in 232 games which would be a new boot rate of 43.5% , Meaning a deduction of 1.2%.. Though the main question is, How many games would you need to play to bring your boot rate to a 1% rate.

Well, Basically we multiply your booted games which is 232 by 100% which would be 23200 games, So you've played 533 Multi-Day games we deducted the games you've been booted which is 232 this leaves us with 301 Games. So We take this number away from the games we believe will take for A Talking Fan to get a 1% boot rate. So the total amount of games A Talking Fan would need to play to achieve his 1% boot rate would be 22968 games..

So 22968 games is the answer to the amount of games, A Talking Fan would need now the question is how long would this take?



There is no definite answer to this question due to the ever changing factors.. (Games at a time, How long they are, Certain scenarios etc)

But we can use A Talking Fans profile (https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=4737335892) To give a rough estimation :)

*These numbers are all estimations so there isn't going to be accuracy but can give a rough idea

So the date that A Talking fan made his Warlight Account was 9/30/2014

Todays date is 23/12/2015..

So A full year is 365 days + (1/4 of a year = 3 months) = 456.25 days

If we divide this number over the ammount of games completed (We are not counting the ongoing 14 games in this case) which would be 456.25/519 = 0.87 games completed every day..

So If A Talking Fan is playing Warlight for 2016 he would approximately complete 317.55 games, So If we divide that number into the amount of games I believe A Talking fan needs to lower his boot rate which is 22928 games we get a number of (LOL) 72.2 Years...

Lmao... So basically In Short, A Talking fan needs to play 22928 games of Warlight which will lower his boot rate to under 1% which at his current play rate will take 72 Years...

Yeah just make another account XD

Edited 12/23/2015 19:57:10
Needs some helps: 12/23/2015 19:56:58


The Hysterical Koala
Level 57
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Joined WarLight: 8/31/2014
Currently in 19 multi-day games
Played in 933 multi-player games (46.8% real-time)
Last seen less than 15 minutes ago
This player has been booted 38 times (4%)

I'm only 3rd place so far :C


*****

Before you start trying to lower your boot rate, figure out what is causing it first. Do you play several RT games at once? Are you not able to get online consistently for multiday games? Do you walk away from games because you (or a teammate) is losing? Do you suffer from a lack of planning, and end up having games running at the same time as other obligations? Do you not take vacations on WL when necessary?

There are many factors that can cause boots, unless you find and eliminate those FIRST then you will only add to your boot rate.

With your current boot rate, you will have trouble joining games with any kind of boot pre-requisite, you can try making/joining invite games with friends, and make certain to not get booted. :P



P.S. I don't mind you getting booted in our game though, I need the point!



P.P.S. (I'm kidding, I don't like winning by boot!)

Edited 12/23/2015 19:58:15
Needs some helps: 12/23/2015 20:04:51


Buns157 
Level 66
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Starting to think you're a troll fan, a lame one if so. It is pretty obvious the only way to lower it is to play games without being booted.
Needs some helps: 12/23/2015 20:07:44

wct
Level 56
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Play a bunch of 1v1 multi-day auto-games on a continuous stream of them. a) You will get much better at 1v1 (if that's something you care about), b) most players are low to mid level, so once you get the hang of it, even playing a bunch of them is not that stressful (stress is a major factor in how many games I play at once), c) often times it's the other player who gets booted (simply due to being new to Warlight or whatever), d) even if you lose, at least you didn't get booted, and that's one more game knocking down your boot rate, e) there is an endless supply of them.

At low stress levels, you should be able to handle at least 10 multi-day 1v1 auto-games at a continuous pace. Once you get comfortable with having so many, you will easily be able to handle 20 at a time. Other types of games will possibly be more stressful, though, so that might limit your total number of games. But if you're not usually stressed, and have some free time every day, you could push yourself up to 50 at a time or higher, depending on how many other games you have going (non-auto). Sounds like a lot, but remember most games will be in a state of waiting for the other player to move (assuming you're checking in daily during your free time and catching up on your games). If you're really gung ho, I could imagine it being manageable to go to 100+ auto-games at a time. They really do get to be pretty routine after a while.

If at any point you start to get overwhelmed, just surrender the toughest games; don't wait on them and let yourself get booted (that *is* the whole point, after all). Always opt for surrender rather than boot. If you're losing, just let yourself lose, don't hang on to it.

There is one thing you should know about how these numbers work, though. It will not be easy to reduce your rate by '1% per month', because the more games you've played, the *slower* the boot rate reduces. This is especially true as your boot rate lowers, it gets even *slower* to reduce. E.g. if someone was booted 99 out of 100 games, with boot rate 99%, after one game of not getting booted, their boot rate would go to 99/101 = 98.0198% which is almost a full percent. But for someone who had only been booted 1 out of 100, i.e. 1% rate, after one more game of not getting booted, it would only go to 1/101 = 0.9901%, which is only one hundredth of a percentage point.

So, while at your current 519 total games you might think that you only need about 5 games to lower your rate by 1%, you actually need closer to 10 games because you're already close to 50% boot rate.

The point is, keeping a 1% per month goal might be easy right now, but it will get harder and harder, requiring more and more games each month to do that.

That being said, if you keep a constant queue of 1v1 multi-day auto games, and push yourself, you could really make a big dent in your boot rate pretty quickly, so 1% per month is actually very easy right now (perhaps too easy; you might want to start with 5% per month until you're down to 25% or something like that, then ease it to a more reachable goal at that point).

An easy way to determine how many total games you need to get to a desired boot rate: Divide your current number of boots by the desired rate (as a decimal, not a percent): boots / rate = total required games.

So with 232 boots, to get to 25%, you would need a total of 232 / 0.25 = 928 games, which is 409 more games than your current 519. If you completed on average 10 1v1 multi-day auto-games per day (not entirely unreasonable, but probably a bit hectic, depending on your life-style), you could get down to 25% in about 41 days, or a bit more than a month. Just as a point of reference; I'm not suggesting to try that hard actually.

To get down to 10%, you would need 232 / 0.1 = 2320, which is 1801 more than your current 519, or 1392 more games after you reach 25%. And that's assuming you don't get booted once during that time.

Edited 12/23/2015 20:18:59
Needs some helps: 12/23/2015 20:08:08


Fan the Apostle
Level 56
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@Ocean , lol , bhut I need to acheieve 35% first , how long would that take if I were to play 17 games at a time (my average game capacity)?
Needs some helps: 12/23/2015 20:26:04

wct
Level 56
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@Ocean , lol , bhut I need to acheieve 35% first , how long would that take if I were to play 17 games at a time (my average game capacity)?

The real variable there is not how many you are currently playing, but how many you *complete* per day (or per month or whatever). The number you're currently playing determines your stress level. The number you complete per day determines your boot rate reduction (which will automatically slow down over time as I described above).

Another good thing about 1v1 mutli-day auto-games I should have mentioned is that they don't tend to go on for a long time. It really mostly depends on how fast/slow your opponent is. That's why you keep a decent sized queue of them, so that slow players average out with fast players. The auto-boot will ensure that turns take no longer than 3 days each, so there's a basic minimum rate of completion at least. Rarely do games go on for 30+ turns.
Needs some helps: 12/23/2015 20:26:57


Platinum
Level 58
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A Talking Fan, There will never be a definite answer but estimations as there are a handful of factors which can vary..

But, I will try to give you a answer.

So to achieve a 35% boot rate at 17 games at a time, As we can see earlier you completing a game everyday is 0.8%.. So you would be finishing a game a day 80% a time, Based on that figure I will basing my answer on!

So, Basically we need to find out what effect 1 game completed without getting booted has on your profile at the moment this is 0.1% as Your games booted/Games completed varys when we have different numbers on your games completed for e.g

Normal Profile (232/520) = 44.6% A profile with 1 more game completed = 44.5%

so basically considering your profile games will be increasing the effect of having one game completed will range to 0.1% - 0.07% effect for now..

So how many games do you need to complete for it to go down to 35%? Well We deducted your current boot rate which is 44.5% by your boot rate which you want which is 35%.. This is 9.5%.. So we figure out the mean of the effect of having one game completed without boot has on your profile which is 0.08% and divide 0.08% into 9.5% this will be 118.75 games..

So Approximately it will take you 118.75 games to reduce your boot rate to 35% which ain't to bad :)

How long will this take for you?

Considering you complete a game a day 80% of the time, If we divide the amount of games you will complete a day which is 0.8 and divide them into the amount of games you need to complete which is 118.75, This will take you 148.4 days...

Edited 12/23/2015 20:39:14
Needs some helps: 12/23/2015 20:30:53


Platinum
Level 58
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I agree with WCT but there is only so much you can do behind a laptop :(

I've used fact when selecting my statistics, Using fact on calculating boot rates is ignoring huge variables which means my results can't be 100% correct! Though you should be aware it can be a very rough guide into telling how long and how many games you would need to complete to achieve whatever figure you wish to have!
Needs some helps: 12/23/2015 20:34:37

Ryzys
Level 57
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Lmao... So basically In Short, A Talking fan needs to play 22928 games of Warlight which will lower his boot rate to under 1% which at his current play rate will take 72 Years...
Haha! I'll be 86 or 87 by then, if I live that long
Needs some helps: 12/23/2015 21:39:33


Lord of Turnips
Level 57
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Do real time games, as you can complete more in a day and feel free to surrender and not be worried about how you think other people will think of you if you do so.
Needs some helps: 12/24/2015 09:24:30


Fan the Apostle
Level 56
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Thanks guys ,especially wct and Ocean. I'll start on reaching 35% first!
Needs some helps: 12/24/2015 09:36:51


muddleszoom
Level 58
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muddleszoom:


Joined WarLight: 12/16/2014
Currently in 56 multi-day games
Played in 2924 multi-player games (24.5% real-time)
Last seen less than 15 minutes ago
This player has been booted 168 times (5.7%)
Needs some helps: 12/24/2015 12:27:57


Fan the Apostle
Level 56
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Guys thanks , my boot rate has decreased by 0.3%
Needs some helps: 12/24/2015 12:31:53


muddleszoom
Level 58
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:)
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