Mockery for Sore Losers: 3/25/2011 23:14:01 |
devilnis
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Read up on Haille Sellassie and the rise of the concept of "Collective Security" for some excellent insight into why it might indeed be a good idea to stick your nose in another continent's business. Generally though, major powers ALWAYS get involved in wars through their own devices. I think the last war that the US really had to get dragged into was WWI, mostly because of a strong isolationist streak amongst the citizens that only changed upon the sinking of the Lusitania.
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Mockery for Sore Losers: 3/25/2011 23:14:38 |
devilnis
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P.S.: I'm an ignorant American.. DUR HUR!
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Mockery for Sore Losers: 3/25/2011 23:15:20 |
Daryl
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The lusitania was never proven to be sunken by an Axis power.........Britian had every reason to get american help or maybe the americans needed a reason......remind you of anything (9/11)
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Mockery for Sore Losers: 3/25/2011 23:17:22 |
Guy Mannington
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why skip solar now and wait to run out of more non renewable resources? I only wish i wasnt too cheap to dish out the crazy amounts they want for solar now. I hate giving big companies my money when there is another option out there. In germany they are doing great things now with solar, even working a retirement income plan from selling it back to the power company after the initial investment is paid off.If everyone were on board with this there would be no need to bomb libya now.
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Mockery for Sore Losers: 3/25/2011 23:18:53 |
Dansonno
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But the corruption of 2012 is drawing near.
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Mockery for Sore Losers: 3/25/2011 23:20:06 |
devilnis
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I wasn't claiming any proof at all about the sinking of the Lusitania, though my personal feeling is that Occam's Razor totally shreds most conspiracy theories about both that and 9/11, and Pearl Harbor come to mention it. Nevertheless, the fact is clear that the sinking of the Lusitania, however it came to pass, was the critical event in swaying American public opinion in favor of entering WWI.
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Mockery for Sore Losers: 3/25/2011 23:21:43 |
Dansonno
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With 2012 comes more disasters (Katrina, Haiti Earthquake, Japan Earthquak, Chile Earthquak???) War (Egypt, Iraq, Lybia) Terrorism (9/11) Disease (Swine flu). 2012 is real!
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Mockery for Sore Losers: 3/25/2011 23:22:37 |
Ace Windu
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Ok I had to come back. Devilnis you are definitely well read on this topic. America is always involved in wars because it is always protecting its interests. It has its hand in everywhere!
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Mockery for Sore Losers: 3/25/2011 23:23:41 |
BM123432
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Actually America entered the First WOrld War in April, 1917, whereas the Lusitnia was sunk in May, 1915. They entered the war, ironically enough, because another Great Power was putting their nose in another continent's business. The Germans were trying to treat with the Mexicans and getting them to invade the US. At the same time, the restarting of unrestricted submarine warfare in February 1917 all but assured the fact that President Wilson would enter the war. The German government, mainly the military , believed that they could end the war and starve Britain before American forces could reach the continent in force. The American entry into the war is directly the fault of the German government. Wilson did not necessarily wish to fight the war, but only mediate it. He was forced to join with Britain and France when it was clear the American economic trade would be threatened.
Additionally, Lusitania was sunk by Germans. Don't be stupid - The German government admitted it at the time. They explained the the Lusitania was carrying ammunition, thus justifying their fire.
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Mockery for Sore Losers: 3/25/2011 23:25:26 |
Daryl
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It has its hand in every cookie jar Vietnam-Against Communism Same with korea Libya OIL all of middle east OIL Excuse 9/11 WW1 Lusitania WW2 Pearl Harbour They always have a reason
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Mockery for Sore Losers: 3/25/2011 23:28:51 |
Daryl
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I LOVE THIS GAME STARTS WITH GNOMIA AND ANOTHER GUY INSULTING EACH OTHER ABOUT A GAME NOW WERE TALKING AMERICAN POLITICS
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Mockery for Sore Losers: 3/25/2011 23:30:18 |
Ace Windu
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Its oil yes but also the need to keep an alternate to their system of power down so that multinational corporations can continue to run the world in the name of profit at the expense of the vast majority of the world. Look at Nicaragua and what they did there.
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Mockery for Sore Losers: 3/25/2011 23:31:40 |
Dansonno
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LOL Amazing.
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Mockery for Sore Losers: 3/25/2011 23:32:28 |
Dansonno
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Yeah, well look at all of the damage the world is facing. 2012 is real!
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Mockery for Sore Losers: 3/25/2011 23:33:20 |
Daryl
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Stop being stupid Dansonno wheres your proof
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Mockery for Sore Losers: 3/25/2011 23:35:08 |
Dansonno
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The Mayans predicted it. The Aztecs predicted it. Nostrodamous predicted it. They said all of the thing that are hapenning on our world now will happen.
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Mockery for Sore Losers: 3/25/2011 23:36:19 |
Ace Windu
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Hey look an ambiguous statement. Hey look it Could be interpreted that it came true! Great!
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Mockery for Sore Losers: 3/25/2011 23:37:10 |
Daryl
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I am going to get a drink in 10 minutes.....OMFG I am a Mayan I can predict the future
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Mockery for Sore Losers: 3/25/2011 23:47:21 |
devilnis
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Boring, you are right about the proximate causes for American entry into WWI, but the Lusitania is held to have kicked off the political organization of pro-war forces. Without it, would the political will for intervention have coalesced and eventually won out? There's no way to tell, but it you could certainly make the case that it eased the path.
In other news, the Mayan long-count calendar that ended in 2012 was found carved on obelisks memorializing the glory of various leaders of the Classic Mayan civilization, each trying to outdo the last (while stripping their lands bare of trees and setting off centuries of soil erosion) in a stark parallel to the Moai builders of easter island. Their eternal empire was struck down by their own ecological short-sightedness and hubris, do you really believe that they could predict the end of the world but not their own imminent demise? Folly!
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