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How do you get better?: 12/28/2015 21:37:14

Konkwær III
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What are some good strategies for the RT ladder?

Edited 12/28/2015 21:40:18
How do you get better?: 12/28/2015 21:40:35


Sheeple
Level 58
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I guess i haven't really played in it and want to pratice first. I know there are alot of templates to learn but wonder if there is more to it than that?
How do you get better?: 12/28/2015 21:44:10


Tiny Koala
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I'm not that good at RT ladder, but for learning the templates, I suggest playing RT ladder. Sure, you'll lose some games, but this is the quickest way to learn.

Edit: nice win rate

Edited 12/28/2015 21:45:52
How do you get better?: 12/28/2015 21:50:32


Sheeple
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Alright i guess i'll take the losses for abit and thanks been praticing what i can before i hit the big 43 to join the ladder.
How do you get better?: 12/28/2015 22:10:12


Hog Wild
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it is true, that there are many varieties of game settings and maps, but don't let that overwhelm you. the vast majority you will see, follow similar rules in determining the winner.

if you want to practice rt ladder, you could always make games that copy the template, with others, multiday if you have to :P

rt ladder does not really let you focus on a specific template at a time, but at least you get matched up quicker now.

improving, here or anywhere, is all about mindset, ability is more about how fast/how much you improve, not whether you improve.



you can learn from your wins and your losses, if you have some understanding of strategy, picking, and such. if you won, why? what mistakes did your opponent make? did you allow your opponent a chance to make a comeback?

if you lost, in the most simplistic of analysis, find the turning points in the game.


self-analysis is as important as watching good players, since everyone has their quirks in their playstyle.

No time to get links, but someone linked Odin's guide, which is very good. M'Hunters also has a good guide, that is floating around somewhere. :))

p.s. try to find players about your skill level, or just a little higher up. The closer the game, the more you have to think about it, while having a realistic chance of winning. (This is for practicing what you learn. fighting a strong player is for learning, as any mistakes on your part will far more likely be punished)

Edited 12/28/2015 22:16:45
How do you get better?: 12/29/2015 00:04:12

MRSKILL45
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If you want to be good, be me.

If you have seen something incredible, its me.

Edited 12/29/2015 00:50:13
How do you get better?: 12/29/2015 00:54:52

Konkwær III
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Thank you Koala.


And, MRSKILL, I guess you are just too amazing for the universe.

Maybe someone should give you a gold star.
How do you get better?: 12/29/2015 16:36:39


[WL] Colonel Harthacanute
Level 52
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Never give in. Never give in. Never, never, never.
How do you get better?: 12/29/2015 16:50:03


ps 
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1) learn to read settings before joining game, they greatly affect how you should pick and expand optimally.

2) check games played on different settings (ladder games are good start, random tournament finals are also usually decent), go through history of the game and figure out when the game turned into someone's favor.

3) play more against skilled players (realtime ladder is good place to start), beating casual open games players is very easy compared to ladder or tournament matches.

4) analyse your games after you are done (check why you lost and what you could have done better, why didn't you think of that at the time?)

5) ask skilled players where you lost, if you ask they will often give some comment on where they thing the game turned

6) WGL is a nice place to test your skills with realtime games and commentary from skilled players, and we usually answer questions posted on the chat. so join us every saturday.
How do you get better?: 12/30/2015 05:26:35


Master Ryiro 
Level 63
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@mrskill
you don't have to join ladders to get beaten by me
just invite me to a normal game,and stop trolling about how ladders are being manupulated
whether people cheat or not,shouldn't mater to you if you just want to play for winning the game you are playing right now and have fun

Edited 12/30/2015 05:32:40
How do you get better?: 12/30/2015 06:03:57


Sheeple
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Yeah got to play against Buns and learnt a fair bit about medium earth and other games in general. Worth the loss? i think so.
How do you get better?: 12/30/2015 06:09:48

Jaymer
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Haha MRSKILL45, you had me going until:

"And no, even the scientist say its impossible to get better."

That was gold. Then you posted this... like you're not even trying anymore:

"If you want to be good, be me.
If you have seen something incredible, its me."

Yawn.

Edit: Adding this because I hate it when people post without actually contributing to the thread's actual topic. People always say, "Ask the players who beat you why you lost." That's okay... But as a teacher in real life, I've learned that people always learn (and remember) better when they realize something for themselves. So the first step after a loss is to go back and review the history and think about what you could have done differently. If you don't see any way that you could have won, THEN ask the other player.

Edited 12/30/2015 06:17:10
How do you get better?: 12/30/2015 06:50:20


[BEAST]KingBEAST
Level 58
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Watching the history will help a lot
How do you get better?: 12/30/2015 06:56:15


Master Ryiro 
Level 63
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+1
How do you get better?: 12/30/2015 08:15:02


Min34 
Level 63
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I like to think I am decent now

Decent? Whats your definition of decent?

Edited 12/30/2015 08:15:20
How do you get better?: 12/30/2015 08:25:45


Sheeple
Level 58
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Acceptable standard.
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