that may be in the bible but its irrelevant to christians. cherrypicking at its finest.

So? Many passages in the Quran about killing are irrelevant to Muslims but that doesn't count does it?

Also 40 million would have died regardless. their religion has nothing to do with their deaths disease killed them.

That was about somebody calling Muslims as violent as the Europeans during colonial times.

you're being a faggot
There is nothing wrong with being gay.

Also just because arabs made innovations doesn't mean islam had anything to do with it. They would have made the same innovations with or without islam. Its just a religion its got nothing to do with scientific advancement.

If there was no Islam, then te Arabs would have not organized and invaded other areas and there would be less cultural exchange, less economic trade and a smaller population, and many Arabs would have not been born. Without that the Arabs would have not made advancements.

It's obvious both sides share some guilt but In the end, the Israeli state is justified in my opinion. Gaza is just a trouble spot. The west bank should get independence


But where will all the Jews put their sheckles?

factual untrue
Then why in Buddhas' name did they organize? What made the Arab tribesman walk away to fight?

didn't use faggot in that context
What kind of weirdo uses bundle of sticks as a insult?

muslims are required by islamic law to not disregard any part of the quaran.
And the majority regularly do.

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After reading that Koala and Ox make the best points, maybe a bit biased as I share the same values on the conflict. Everything I want to say has been said so......I'll just leave it at that.

(From further back in the thread)

"CONGRATS ON BEING MORE LIBERAL THAN SAUDI ARABIA AND IRAN."
*more liberal then every majority Muslim nation on Earth.

You are more conservative then Turkey, that's for sure.

What do you mean?

Turkey is a liberal , secular democracy that respects the religious rights of all groups within it.

What do you mean?

That's the very question I had in mind while reading your posts...

"Turkey is a liberal , secular democracy that respects the religious rights of all groups within it."
1. Not if Erdogan can help it and 2)they may respect religious rights, but tell the Kurds about equality. Furthermore, Israel also respects the rights of non-Jews, giving them representation in Parliament and every right of Jews. The only difference is the draft requirement.

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The Kurds have equality. Just because communist terrorists don't doesn't mean that Turkey is a un-free country.

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Erdogan persecutes Kurds not part of the PKK

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firstly: have you read the quran? have you read the bible? well both of them have a hell of a lot of god killing other people and intolerance and stuff like that, so it isnt fundamental to islam unless you want to say that discrimination and terrorism is fundamental to christianity.
secondly: not all muslims are terrorist, in fact the vast majority arent, saying that they are is like saying all christians are racist because of the KKK

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They blow themselves up in the name of Allah, not cuz they're unemployed.
they blow themselves up cause the west has completely destabilized the middle east, when the west had no hand in the middle east it thrived and was ahead of the west in science and tolerance. Now the USA has gone and invaded half of the middle east, completely destabilizing the regions, ISIS wouldnt even exist if it wasnt for USA's invasion of iraq. If the chinese invaded your home country and completely tore it up, you would start to hate the chinese and try and stop them

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Free israel! Give the land occupied by palestinians in Gaza and Western Bank back to the rightful and great nation of israel! Expel the treacherous palestinians!

:D

Do you know what taqiyya even means, you dumbfuck?
Do you know any person who'd blow themselves up because they dislike a country's "freedom"? People don't sacrifice their lives over trivialities, you imbecile. America's greed and anti-Soviet conflict have destroyed Iraq and Afghanistan - and indirectly Syria. People's lives have become hellishly difficult and wretched there and they want to strike back at the cause of their oppression.
What you call terrorism, they call vengeance.

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"secondly: not all muslims are terrorist, in fact the vast majority arent, saying that they are is like saying all christians are racist because of the KKK"
No one ever said all Muslims are terrorists. However, name one theocratic terror group of any importance that isn't Islamic. The argument that they hate us because we intervened is ludicrous. 1), there have been Christian-Muslim conflicts since Mohammed attacked the Byzantine Empire (if we go back all the way, Muslims are the ones starting things; see Tours 712) all the way to Vienna 1683 and beyond. This is not a new phenomenon. 2), if they did attack us due to our intervention, why did they attack Jakarta and Istanbul this week? I haven't heard anything about Indonesia entering the Middle East anytime recently (read: EVER). 3), why do they fight for Allah and Islam if it is the West's interfering which motivates the Islamic extremists? It would seem that if freedom from foreigners was the goal, they would go about it like the IRA, Basques, etc; i.e., sectarian, not theocratic. In reality, it is a conflict of cultures that originated in the 7th century and will continue until either the West or Islam are destroyed or changed to become unrecognizable that causes this conflict.

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The moral of the story is:

Palestine vs. Israel will the Kirk vs. Picard of the United Nations.

"Do you know what taqiyya even means, you dumbfuck? "
Not necessary

"Do you know any person who'd blow themselves up because they dislike a country's "freedom"? People don't sacrifice their lives over trivialities, you imbecile."
Again, insults are unbecoming. Also, I do know many people who would blow themselves up over another country's freedom. It's called ISIS, Khorason, Al Qaeda, Boko Haram, etc. It may not be the freedom on its own, but freedom is a hallmark of the Western culture they seek to destroy. Islam is by nature repressive, and they find our values so alien they kill over it.

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