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Manager's League Season 1 - Division A/B Scores: 4/8/2016 15:12:24


Luna {TJC}
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Chriznu
It's not that hard to spell :P It's just crazychu with a K and no A
Manager's League Season 1 - Division A/B Scores: 4/9/2016 09:57:27

talia_fr0st
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So Krzychu.
Manager's League Season 1 - Division A/B Scores: 4/9/2016 09:57:40

talia_fr0st
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Update please!
Manager's League Season 1 - Division A/B Scores: 4/10/2016 02:36:33


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Manager's League Season 1 - Division A/B Scores: 4/10/2016 03:35:26


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Yeah, but that has a typo. For example, my teammates are 3-1 on Pangea, but the sheet says they have 8 points. He must not have formulas for those derived columns.

Max pts is right, but we should be at 56 pts total.

What would be cool is to see pts/salary for the team. I'm sure he'll do that analysis at the end though to determine player worth.

Edited 4/10/2016 03:37:38
Manager's League Season 1 - Division A/B Scores: 4/10/2016 04:15:09


Great Expanse 
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Yes I said the update was going to be Saturday. You can thank my hangover for wasting half of Saturday when I wanted to get the update done. It will be Sunday for sure, the charts are all updated I just need to write up the posts. Its after midnight and I want to sleep so....

@ChrisCMU, I checked and WTF is getting 12 points from 2v2 Pangea so either the issue has been resolved or you were mistaken. Either way its not important anymore.

Edited 4/10/2016 04:26:55
Manager's League Season 1 - Division A/B Scores: 4/10/2016 04:38:32


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porco dio
Manager's League Season 1 - Division A/B Scores: 4/10/2016 06:10:23


Great Expanse 
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Edited 4/10/2016 17:41:28
Manager's League Season 1 - Division A/B Scores: 4/10/2016 18:26:38


Great Expanse 
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Group B: DIVISION B Week 3 UPDATE


Well everyone has been very patient with me and here we go!



Division B started off with a bang but has settled to more plodding pace. So far it appears this division will be tighter then Division A, but Division A has its own unique race so comparsion isdifficult.

All tournaments, except one, are too early to predict the winner(s). The one exception is 1v1 ME WR where Zappyelf (Alpha Hunters), PhucillJerry (Ventus), and Dr. Love (Cat Attack) all have a shot at winning. All have a 3-1 record, however a three way tie is not possible so there should be a clear winner of that tournament. Others are better at this tie-breaker type analysis then myself, so correct me if I'm wrong.



The Force and Ventus are the current front runners from Division B to promote based on their current track record in my opinion (sorry Alpha Hunters but you just aren't quite in the right position to challenge for the promotion spot yet, thought that can easily change).

Currently I see The Force winning as Mike's team has been more consistent then Ventus in both winning games and maintaining their win rate (see the Point Growth and Win Rates graphs below) as opposed to Ventus which has a longer negative trend regarding their win rate. When Ventus will bottom out with their win rate is the biggest question.

Cat Attack started slow but has moved past F.C. Nazwa and Jingo which are fighting it out for last place. My money is on Jingo finishing last, just look at how flat that line is in the Points Growth graph, its like Saskatchewan (Kansas for Americans).



While it does appear that trendlines are emerging, most points are from 1v1 with only a handful of 2v2 games finished (and no 3v3 games). The shape of this race can easily change over the next few weeks as we pivot to team games.

I'll end on a discussion topic that is more pertinent for Division A then Division B: booting. Division B has much better activity then Division A with only 4 boots I've observed so far. That is miniscule compared to Division A. My working theory on this that Division A has more players from 'elite' clans where activity is more of an issue then the players in Division B. Despite players coming from more humble clans, their activity is higher and should be commended. By keeping Manager's League active, hopefully it can flourish. The point of looking at the boot rate is how it can be fixed. More on that later.

Next week I hope to look at the Season 1 predictions for Division B, it ought to be interesting.

Division A will be posted later today.
Manager's League Season 1 - Division A/B Scores: 4/10/2016 18:54:19


Ξ Nanaimo
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Go Ventus!
Manager's League Season 1 - Division A/B Scores: 4/11/2016 13:47:27


♆♆♆ RedBloodyKiller ♆♆♆
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damn but at least we have the best team icone in here
Manager's League Season 1 - Division A/B Scores: 4/11/2016 14:01:04


PhucilliJerry
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GE, thanks for the stats!

You are correct on the Division B 1v1 ME WR tourney, a 3 way tie is unpossible.

If DR. Love beats Zappyelf he takes it. If Zappyelf wins then my game with japan77 decides it for either myself or Zappyelf.
Manager's League Season 1 - Division A/B Scores: 4/11/2016 15:21:56


Luna {TJC}
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Very great update , the conclusion of 1v1 ME WR will be Interesting.
Manager's League Season 1 - Division A/B Scores: 4/11/2016 15:36:09


Onoma94
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FC Nazwa will definitely pick up from there, when team games will start to finish. :p
Manager's League Season 1 - Division A/B Scores: 4/11/2016 15:47:54


Sułtan Kosmitów
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What happend to Jingo?! I thought it will get 1st or 2nd.
Manager's League Season 1 - Division A/B Scores: 4/11/2016 15:58:52


Waka 
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as far i see right now the problem in Jingo is just Dan who is underperforming with a 2-7 right now closely followed by Darkpie who is 1-3 on 1v1
Manager's League Season 1 - Division A/B Scores: 4/11/2016 16:07:09


Onoma94
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Darkpie got booted from two of his games.
Manager's League Season 1 - Division A/B Scores: 4/11/2016 17:54:26


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Division A: Week 3 UPDATE:




Things have changed slightly since I created these graphs, I will update the image in the first post later. But lets focus on the current race.



At this point, the race for relegation is between Random Players and Legends of Light as Spuds, WTF and Warsenal WC cannot be relegated (currently Warsenal has 57 points, not the 49 in the table). Robot Unicorns, the slowest team so far, will likely not be relegated but we must wait and see. But looking at the numbers, the winner for the first season is going to be Spuds. Their lead over WTF and Warsenal WC in points is sizeable. With so few games left for Spuds, a late season stumble is looking less and less likely.

Its funny because right now the predictions for the teams haven't panned out at all. The two perceived front runners Robot Unicorns and Legends of Light are either very far back or mathematically eliminated from winning. Spuds, which no one seemed to have a clue where they would place is nearly running away with it. Warsenal WC is placing strong, not strong enough to win, but definitely not in 5th or 6th place. WTF has surged massively as can be seen in the Points Growth and Win Rates graphs. Where they place will be interesting to watch.




Booting:

Now onto the main topic of this post that has become kind of a problem. As I wrote yesterday, I observed only sporadic boots in Division B games which is understandable. But as of right now I have observed 53 boots across all the games completed so far. Yes 51 boots. Its getting ridiculous now. And from what I've observed it is a pervasive issue but some are more responsible then others.



Looking at the boots per team, it makes sense why Legends of Light and Random Players are floundering since their teams are riddled with boots from various players. But look at Warsenal WC where two players have been booted 13 times between them: dodo commander and andy903. Andy903's 1v1 games are at an end but dodo commander's continued booting will hamper the team's ability to win 2v2 games. While getting booted doesn't guarantee a loss, most games where a time is booted did result in a loss for the team. It isn't just that a player like dodo commander gets booted, its that they then come back and get booted again and again in the same game! My assessment of Warsenal WC is that the team is performing quite well but that two players are acting as anchors.

This also shows how solid Spuds as a team is, that they have had only one boot when compared to 3 teams with double digit number of boots really shouldn't be a surprise. This isn't that hard.

But there are always extenuating circumstances, players like Glamourous semi-retire and that does put a damper on a team's ability to succeed but are this many players retiring? Other teams understand player situations better them myself but

A simple solution to this is to enable vacations but as Master of the Dead has said to me vacations are probably one of the worst things to happen to a league like this one. When using a system where the group can only move as fast as the slowest person, it makes sense why vacations aren't allowed in Manager's League.

From the manager's perspective, maybe a new rule that a player with a boot rate about x% is automatically removed from the league in the subsequent season. Just a thought.

But to me the weirdest part of all of this is that the number of boots is so different between divisions. If this was an issue of vacations, then a similar effect should be observed in Division B but its isn't. To me it is the players in Division A that are the cause and there is no obvious solution.

Edited 4/11/2016 17:57:18
Manager's League Season 1 - Division A/B Scores: 4/11/2016 18:00:58


Buns157 
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You missed a couple of boots, not that it matters.

I don't think its necessary to have an auto remove for a high boot rate, the managers should weigh how reliable the player is compared to their price and skill. This should be done before buying any player.
Manager's League Season 1 - Division A/B Scores: 4/11/2016 18:03:16


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Fun side-fact:
Spuds won their only game one of their players got booted :P

Edited 4/11/2016 18:06:22
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