What's up with Platinum? I'm pretty disappointed that Apollo decided to hand off his legacy to someone who's not only got such a terrible rep but also failed consistently as a clan leader.

XD +1 @Mike

It's pretty obvious alt= alternative. What else could I be alternative on ?

You've played one multi-day 1v1 against a Level 55 player and won said game.

None of this screams "newbie."

Beginners luck.
He surrendered.

Edited 4/2/2016 23:38:01

Can you link the game ?

@OxTheArtist

I'd recommend 101st. Leader is 10/10 and he copy+pasted the same recruitment message at least 5 times now. Perhaps you are the special one.

Also, CORP already have too many Saltys. The last Salty we had didn't work out so well so I'm not sure... 101st have never had a Salty though!

I don't understand what you meant in that sentence..

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@Knyte

What's up with Platinum? I'm pretty disappointed that Apollo decided to hand off his legacy to someone who's not only got such a terrible rep but also failed consistently as a clan leader.

Maybe if you ask someone who has been actually active on the forums and don't go by their own thoughts all of the time, You would have a updated opinion instead of that statement..

Edited 4/3/2016 00:28:15

What's up with Platinum? I'm pretty disappointed that Apollo decided to hand off his legacy to someone who's not only got such a terrible rep but also failed consistently as a clan leader.

I don't understand what you're talking about. I do make fun out of plat a lot, but it's just in a kind of joke way, I honestly respect him and what he's done for our clan. I can't see how he has a bad reputation, he's nice and supportive, and isn't bashing you in any way for you to say that. Plus, he's reputation is raising, he just won the WGL, I can do nothing but congradulate him on that.

About our clan, I think he's done an outstanding job. 101st is in a great shape, our players are well ranked on the ladder, competitive and eager to improve. The clan is on it's best moment on a long time, and that's all on platinum; and don't take it from me, but from the multiple top players that are saying that.

Your comment is ignorant and just comes out of nowhere, the only purpose of it is to spread lies about someone you seem to know nothing about. Shame on you.

mailed you 'bout it :P

Edited 4/3/2016 00:37:47

@TeamGuns/Plat:

So my background here is that I essentially ran CORP from May till August in 2015. I'm well aware of the development that took place in CORP (mainly the growth of an actual strat community, which has now managed to attract some real solid players that eclipse most of our old best players) during that timeframe, and in fact (since that was the zenith of my WL activity) gained a sort of reputation from it.

In August, when I left CORP over a dispute with Kazuki and Angry Panda/Angry Koala, Apollo (using his alt MasteRMind) PM'd me with an offer to take charge of 101st as head leader above Platinum and Benjamin628. Very specifically, he stated that he was interested in replicating the vision that I'd applied to CORP.

In other words, CORP- the clan that Platinum unreasonably goes around bashing- was even in its earlier state considered a model for 101st.

Fast forward through the next couple of months and the following things happen:

- Benjamin628 gradually leaves his leadership of 101st and goes back to just AWF
- Platinum fails to make any real headway with 101st
- Platinum develops a reputation as an asshole

Going back to that last point, Platinum- whose skill level is decent (1900-ish upon ladder entry is very, very solid)- gets in so much beef with others that he even tries (and fails) to repair it through another account.

That's cool, though. 101st hasn't become the sort of clan that I believe Apollo wanted it to- it's active but stagnant and non-unique in terms of what it offers its members- and Platinum is not quite an unskilled player, but what I take issue with (particularly from Platinum and Fleecemaster) is the ignorant judgment passed onto other clans about which Platinum has zero knowledge and (given his history of having an alt that got kicked out of CORP) a lot of motivation to lie about.

You're calling me out for "ignorance"/etc. but at the same time that's exactly what I'm calling out on the part of Platinum. He's had zero real experience in CORP, has no idea about the internal mechanisms or growth of the clan, and his opinion of the clan certainly diverges heavily from popular viewpoints. And yet Platinum (and Fleecemaster) continue reiterating and promoting the ignorant notion that CORP is some trash RP clan on par with Falcons and Wolves when it's, y'know, a fairly competitive, highly active clan that's definitely got a competent strat community (though markedly lacking standout players under my metric of "people I can't repeatedly beat").

I just think that such a level of disrespect and willful misinformation is uncalled for and completely unjustified given 101st's status is a generic semi-active strat clan and Platinum's status as a generic competitive player whose not well-respected among the community.

That's why I think it's tragic that this is the person who now carries Apollo's torch.

I will remain neutral but aren't you guys bashing platinum right now so doesn't that make you and your argument very hypocritical?

yeah Plantnium seems nice! Lay off him.

How is it hypocritical to call out Platinum for willfully and repeatedly misinforming people?

Plat may be young and like a little annoying brother at times who we all in 101st take the piss out of but at the end of the day he does a great job of leading 101st behind the scenes. He's turned 101st from an out of date inactive clan to an active, fun and competitive clan that has really strong bonds with each other. In my opinion, Apollo would be proud of 101st to this day, if he were around. JSA leader of Lynx whom we have strong ties with, certainly is proud of us, so no reason Apollo wouldn't be either.

Fast forward through the next couple of months and the following things happen:

- Benjamin628 gradually leaves his leadership of 101st and goes back to just AWF
- Platinum fails to make any real headway with 101st
- Platinum develops a reputation as an asshole

101st has evolved far beyond what Apollo and I expected. If you know the history of 101st, you know how 101st has lacked activity since Lynx split off to form an elite clan. We've brought in multiple people to try to lead 101st to more activity but none had any real effect. 101st nowadays is possibly the best place for players to learn and improve their skill, and among the most active clans that are interested in strategy. Platinum has turned 101st from a place with virtually no activity into a thriving and very active community. He has done more for 101st than any player has (with the exception of Apollo).

I'm not going to say Platinum is a perfect guy. He gets in more arguments than he should and gets too emotionally involved at times. I don't always agree with his decisions on how to run 101st. But I can honestly say he is a good guy, and a very strong clan leader, and he has done an exceptional job with 101st. To say Apollo would not be happy with what 101st is right now is ignorant. I imagine if Apollo had decided to stay active on warlight, this is almost identical to what 101st would be like with him leading. The only thing I could imagine Apollo changing is adding a roleplaying section to 101st, but with all the new roleplaying clans, there is a strong possibility he would not have added one either. Either way, he would be very pleased with what Platinum has done.


I personally have not really seen Platinum bashing CORP. I'd love to see some of the things he has said about them. He seems to respect CORP from what I've seen honestly. Personally attacking him in this thread was a bit unnecessary.

I'd love to see some of the things he has said about them. He seems to respect CORP from what I've seen honestly. Personally attacking him in this thread was a bit unnecessary.

Holy shit some of y'all are straight-up ignorant. It's literally in this thread and half the Clans forum.

I had some reservations when Plat invited me to 101st because of his apparent poor reputation on the forum threads, but I have enjoyed my time in 101st and found that Plat is actually a good guy. He incites petty arguments, to be sure, but if you are arguing with him, you're giving into the pettiness too. Go back to your clans like our mothers have sent us to our rooms and chill out.

Holy shit some of y'all are straight-up ignorant. It's literally in this thread
-knyte

I recommend CORP, Fun social clan
-Platinum

Platinum, stop insulting CORP! Calling them fun and social is incredibly rude. Stop bashing them Platinum!

Edited 4/3/2016 02:02:04

Was that not obvious sarcasm to you? I mean- read the last sentence. Put it in context of Plat's behavior on the forum.

It's literally the same line people throw about DARKLORDS.

I'm personally not invested in this enough to actually care what you think or dig up Plat's statements, so if you (for some reason) care, you can run a query on WL/Forum yourself.

Edited 4/3/2016 02:04:56

I personally have not really seen Platinum bashing CORP. I'd love to see some of the things he has said about them. He seems to respect CORP from what I've seen honestly. Personally attacking him in this thread was a bit unnecessary.

Really? From what I've seen, Plat bashing CORP seems to be a personal hobby of his. Just search through some of the forums from where Plat posted comments. They may not be in every single one of his posts, but they occur frequently enough to call it a typical Plat behavior.

Edited 4/3/2016 02:06:33