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Promotion/Relegation League Season 19: 6/5/2016 00:21:21


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ANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNND

I just fucked up my promotion chances by early surrendering..

https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=11305368

ugh... this is so annnoying
Promotion/Relegation League Season 19: 6/5/2016 06:56:15


Pushover 
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Awww, we've all early surrendered at least once. Apollo especially comes to mind as a player who surrendered early against me a couple times.

https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=4521073
https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=5815469

I wish I could come up with an example of where i did it but.... eh. My memory is crap.
Promotion/Relegation League Season 19: 6/6/2016 21:38:22


TheGreatLeon
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Speaking of egregious mistakes, my first game in this league ended up being the game that determined the winner of Group K1 (graemes/Rooob). I didn't know it was WR and assumed I could do my normal Australia-on-turn-2 stuff. That was my only loss! What a terrible game.
Promotion/Relegation League Season 19: 6/7/2016 13:19:10


Jefferspin 
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I'll be leaving after this season. Thanks Push!
Promotion/Relegation League Season 19: 6/7/2016 14:16:54


Beren Erchamion 
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Bye, Jeff. You won't be missed.
Promotion/Relegation League Season 19: 6/8/2016 03:05:18


Pushover 
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You know that's a damn lie Ber-

oh, right, he is the only one threatening your promotion isn't he :P

Edited 6/8/2016 03:05:30
Promotion/Relegation League Season 19: 6/9/2016 05:42:52


Pushover 
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Some of the groups have finished this week!

GROUP A
Timinator (4-1)
timon92 (4-1)
Krzychu (3-2)
rocky1 (3-3)
FlyingBender (2-3)
grona • apex (2-4)
Mirror (0-4)

grona has beaten Mirror, which keeps him alive, but he'll need help. If Mirror fails to win both his final games against FlyingBender and Krzychu, both grona and Mirror will relegate. Otherwise a tiebreaker tournament will be needed between FlyingBender, grona, and Mirror.

As I said before, the Timi/timon game for the Season 19 title is a wild one, with each player having full intel on the other. Says Timi on skype:
[6/7/2016 11:13:46 AM] Timinator: my p/r game with timon is so intense
[6/7/2016 11:14:15 AM] Timinator: i'm 1 army up
[6/7/2016 11:14:19 AM] Timinator: and 1 cardpiece down
[6/7/2016 11:14:22 AM] Timinator: which means
[6/7/2016 11:14:25 AM] Timinator: i got 0, he got 1
[6/7/2016 11:46:51 AM] Timinator: and we already played 5 turns
[6/7/2016 11:47:14 AM] Timinator: i've issued 1 attack in those 5 turns
[6/7/2016 11:47:21 AM] Timinator: and timon... i think it was 3

GROUP B
Beren • apex (3-0)
Jefferspin (3-1) - Leaving the league
Pushover (2-2)
Master Turtle (2-3)
Master of the Dead (2-3)
Master Bjarke (1-4)

After a number of surprising late results, Beren is in position to win the group, Bjarke loses 3 straight to finish last, and Jefferspin picks a terrible time to retire as he was poised to promote to group A! This means beren will definitely be promoted to A next season. And given that two still need to promote to A, I'm all of a sudden in a great position. If I'm able to beat beren, then I promote. if I lose, then there will be a three way tiebreaker - among players with losing records! - that will decide the promotion.

GROUP C
JV (4-0)
master of desaster (4-1)
Metatron (2-1)
Ollie (1-0)
Verzehrer (2-3)
Maréchal Lannes, duc de Montebello (1-3)
his balls. (0-6) - Removed for inactivity

There has been absolutely no movement in this group since last week. lol

GROUP D - FINISHED
Bigchps147 (4-2, 2-0) - WINNER
almosttricky (4-2, 1-1)
Master Atom ◆Elite◆ (4-2, 0-2)
smileyleg {TJC} (3-3, 1-0)
ChrisCMU (3-3, 0-1)
Andersault (2-4)
Frankdeslimste • apex (1-5) - Removed for inactivity

Well Frank boots in his final game, which triggers a removal for inactivity according to the new rules. Damn :( This puts almosttricky into 2nd place. Thanks to Jefferspin's retirement, it's looking like we'll have a super-promotion from D end up in B, which would be Bigchps. almosttricky and Atom will promote to C. Andersault will drop to E.

GROUP E
Don [ Ω ] (5-0) - WINNER
Oh Noes (4-2)
Polakillo (3-3)
Great Expanse (2-3)
Wenyun (1-2)
MightySpeck (a Koala) (2-4)
ferede (1-4)

There are 3 games left in the group, all involving Wenyun: vs Great Expanse, ferede, and Don. All 4 players look to be in danger of relegating at first glance, but I'm not bothering to enumerate the possibilities. I'm lazy yo.

Don and Oh Noes finish 1-2. Great Expanse can take 3rd if he beats Wenyun.

GROUP F - FINISHED
Hades (4-2, 2-1, 1-0) - WINNER
Buns157 (4-2, 2-1, 0-1)
Arkanton (4-2, 1-2, 1-0)
USA Biches (4-2, 1-2, 0-1)
butterfly94 (2-4, 1-0)
Hostile (2-4, 0-1)
+SAM+ (1-5) - Leaving the league

USA Biches outlasts SAM and enters a four way tie for first place in this competitive group. But like I said before it matters little thanks to tiebreakers.

GROUP G
Sułtan Kosmitów (7-0) - WINNER
Dom365 (5-2)
Platinum (3-2)
Min34 (3-2)
awesomeusername (3-2)
Ryzys (2-3)
bobbob000 (1-6)
indibob (0-7) - leaving the league

Dom beats Plat, but loses to Min. This keeps open the possibility of all three tied for 2nd if both Plat and Min win their final games. And guess who awesomeusername is playing? Yup, Plat and Min. So third place could also end up crazy. Still, Dom is looking pretty good to finish 2nd right now.

GROUP H - FINISHED
Master Jz (5-0) - WINNER
Tony Sodano (3-2, 1-0)
Turkish (3-2, 0-1)
Benjamin628 (2-3)
ipg (1-4)
Fleecemaster (1-4) - leaving the league

Turkish, as expected, cleans up his final two games to finish third. Benjamin also cleans up to avoid relegation.

GROUP I
mslasm (4-0)
Cata Cauda (3-0)
PhucilliJerry (2-1)
Onoma94 (2-3)
Prabster Realm (1-4)
[WOLF] Colonel H Cardwell (0-4)

Yikes, Prabster Realm loses all his remaining games, including 2 boot losses - because he avoids a 3rd boot, he's not booted from the league. And despite all this, the Colonel still ends up finishing last, as he gave Prabster his only win. Meanwhile, if Jerry wins his final two games, he could sneak into a tiebreaker for first place if Cata Cauda beats mslasm.

GROUP J - FINISHED
kirdol (3-1, 1-0) - WINNER
tomjh (3-1, 0-1)
[wolf]japan77 (2-2, 1-0)
Gustave II (2-2, 0-1)
Ω Cat Juggernaut (0-4) - Removed for inactivity

So I find out the reason why Gustave is doing so poorly is because he's not even around! Another player is managing his existing games for him, and Gustave will likely not return next season (but I'll wait to boot him until the last moment). Cat Juggernaut, though, will be removed for booting in 3 of his 4 losses. tomjh fights valiantly in his final games, but his early loss to kirdol ends up giving kirdol the group win. Congrats!

GROUP K1
독일남자(Rob) (5-0) - WINNER
graemes (5-1)
Math Wolf (3-2)
Luna {TJC} (2-3) - Leaving the league
K-Train (2-4)
Countess (1-3)
❤HankyPinky (0-5) - Leaving the league

Nooo, Rob, why did you change your name? Now it's boring.

But wow! Math Wolf loses to both Rob and graemes, the latter in 22 turns! This sets what I thought would be an overwhelming favorite back to 3rd place. This means graemes' early loss to Rob gives Rob the group win, with graemes finishing 2nd.

GROUP K2 - FINISHED
PanagiotisTheGreekFreak (5-1) - WINNER
DR. Love (4-2, 2-0)
rouxburg (4-2, 1-1)
Hunta (4-2, 0-1)
ℳℛᐤ✕ (3-3)
Coyote151 (1-5)
Arni (0-6) - removed for inactivity

It seems Dr. Love was correct and there is love for him, as he wins his final game and snags 2nd place, very important for group placement next season. Mr. X loses his final two games to fall all the way back to 5th place.

GROUP K3
13CHRIS37 (5-0) - WINNER
<SNinja> Leinad (4-2)
Pink (4-2)
culpa (3-3)
Madmen (2-3)
AWOL Gls AJ (1-4)
THE1AJK (0-5)

No movement from last week. AJ needs to win his final game to avoid last place, and Madmen needs to win his (against CHRIS no less) to clinch 5th.

GROUP K4
Smutny Edgar (5-0) - WINNER
Hasdrubal (5-1)
[GER] Florian (3-3)
Ragnar (2-2)
[NL] bassoonplayer (2-4)
Aste (1-4)
Mike (1-5)

Smutny Edgar beats Hasdrubal to win the group! Ragnar has two games left, and winning both will get him 3rd.
Promotion/Relegation League Season 19: 6/9/2016 05:54:22


Pushover 
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Now there are two concerns you should be aware of...

1. I am going on vacation soon! I'll be gone for two weeks starting this Saturday, June 11. What does this mean for the league? Well, I won't be able to provide updates and I won't be able to make tiebreaker tournaments (or participate in them!) Sorry about that!

2. It occurred to me that the tiebreaker kind of fails when boot losses are taken into account. So perhaps tiebreaking should be in this order: a. head to head, b. tiebreaker tournament (if there's time), c. number of games not booted, d. fizzer's metric. What do you all think of this?
Promotion/Relegation League Season 19: 6/9/2016 20:19:39

Ollie 
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don't you mean number of boots before tiebreaker tournaments? Otherwise i don't get why you would look at the number of boots
Promotion/Relegation League Season 19: 6/9/2016 20:58:02


Great Expanse 
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So with 3 players dropping out above me; Jefferspin, his balls and Frankdeslimate; does that mean fewer people get relegated, more people promoted, or super promotion to fill those vacancies?

Just wondering if I come third in E by beating Wenyun if I promote to D or not.
Promotion/Relegation League Season 19: 6/9/2016 21:22:51

Ollie 
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you probably will. Lower divisions usually promote more then 2 people
Promotion/Relegation League Season 19: 6/10/2016 06:12:38


Pushover 
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don't you mean number of boots before tiebreaker tournaments? Otherwise i don't get why you would look at the number of boots


the extra tiebreakers are only used if for some reason the tiebreaker tournament isn't made, or it's still tied after the tiebreaker tournament.

Ollie is also right about the promotion. But we will see.

Also if group B ends up with 3 way 2-3 tie for second I think I'll just promote group C winner to A, cause i don't like the idea of promoting players with losing records. What do you guys think about group B situation?
Promotion/Relegation League Season 19: 6/10/2016 06:27:00


Electric_Kitten
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I would join the upcoming season, if there's room :)
Promotion/Relegation League Season 19: 6/10/2016 18:14:09


almosttricky 
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Feels good to start at 0-2 and end up 4-2, haha!
Promotion/Relegation League Season 19: 6/11/2016 12:01:15


Onoma94
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So I'm not relegating only because of a boot win. Jeez, I really suck >.>
Promotion/Relegation League Season 19: 6/26/2016 19:13:18


Pushover 
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Promotion/Relegation League Season 19: 6/26/2016 19:46:30


Pushover 
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GROUP A
Timinator (4-1)
timon92 (4-1)
Krzychu (4-2)
rocky1 (3-3)
FlyingBender (3-3)
grona • apex (2-4)
Mirror (0-6)

Wow! Timinator and timon92 are still playing! The game's in turn 12 and I can't wait to see how it turns out. A reminder, the winner of this game wins the season! Meanwhile Mirror has a heartbreaker of a season, losing all 6 games. A perennial swing back and forth between group A and B. (Hey at least he makes it to A!) Mirror's losses also dooms grona to relegation as well, for the first time in many many seasons.

GROUP B
Beren • apex (4-0) - WINNER
Jefferspin (3-2) - Leaving the league
Pushover (2-2)
Master Turtle (2-3)
Master of the Dead (2-3)
Master Bjarke (1-4)

Beren beats Jefferspin in a mostly inconsequential game. I'm the last one holding up the group thanks to my two week vacation. If I win, I scam a promotion to group A. If I lose... well damn it upon reflection there is no way I want a losing record to promote. I'd rather super-promote a player from group C honestly. Since group A still hasn't finished, I might take a couple days to figure out if I still have a shot.

GROUP C
JV (5-0)
master of desaster (4-1)
Metatron (2-2)
Ollie (1-0)
Verzehrer (2-3)
Maréchal Lannes, duc de Montebello (1-3)
his balls. (0-6) - Removed for inactivity

JV has notched another win against Metatron, and now only Ollie can spoil the group win or MoD's second place. You know, the guy that has been spamming vacations for weeks. Well there is still other games going on so there's no reason to force Ollie's hand just yet but this league delaying is getting annoying. A note that third place could end up an important finish if I take a super promotion from C for group A.

GROUP D - FINISHED
Bigchps147 (4-2, 2-0) - WINNER
almosttricky (4-2, 1-1)
Master Atom ◆Elite◆ (4-2, 0-2)
smileyleg {TJC} (3-3, 1-0)
ChrisCMU (3-3, 0-1)
Andersault (2-4)
Frankdeslimste • apex (1-5) - Removed for inactivity

GROUP E - FINISHED
Don [ Ω ] (6-0) - WINNER
Oh Noes (4-2)
Great Expanse (3-3, 1-0)
Polakillo (3-3, 0-1)
MightySpeck (a Koala) (2-4, 1-0)
ferede (2-4, 0-1)
Wenyun (1-5)

Ouch, Wenyun loses all three of his final games to finish last place in the group.

GROUP F - FINISHED
Hades (4-2, 2-1, 1-0) - WINNER
Buns157 (4-2, 2-1, 0-1)
Arkanton (4-2, 1-2, 1-0)
USA Biches (4-2, 1-2, 0-1)
butterfly94 (2-4, 1-0)
Hostile (2-4, 0-1)
+SAM+ (1-5) - Leaving the league

GROUP G - FINISHED
Sułtan Kosmitów (7-0) - WINNER
Dom365 (5-2, 1-0)
Platinum (5-2, 0-1)
awesomeusername (4-3, 1-0)
Min34 (4-3, 0-1)
Ryzys (2-5)
bobbob000 (1-6)
indibob (0-7) - leaving the league

After the dust settles, Dom hangs on to his 2nd place finish and Platinum grabs 3rd. Due to drop outs in upper groups, awesomeusername and Min34 could also see promotions.

GROUP H - FINISHED
Master Jz (5-0) - WINNER
Tony Sodano (3-2, 1-0)
Turkish (3-2, 0-1)
Benjamin628 (2-3)
ipg (1-4)
Fleecemaster (1-4) - leaving the league

GROUP I - FINISHED, tiebreaker needed
mslasm (4-1, 1-1)
Cata Cauda (4-1, 1-1)
PhucilliJerry (4-1, 1-1)
Onoma94 (2-3)
Prabster Realm (1-4)
[WOLF] Colonel H Cardwell (0-4)

Well well well, all the pieces fell into place and a tiebreaker tournament is needed to decide first place!

GROUP J - FINISHED
kirdol (3-1, 1-0) - WINNER
tomjh (3-1, 0-1)
[wolf]japan77 (2-2, 1-0)
Gustave II (2-2, 0-1)
Ω Cat Juggernaut (0-4) - Removed for inactivity

GROUP K1 - FINISHED
독일남자(Rob) (6-0) - WINNER
graemes (5-1)
Math Wolf (4-2)
K-Train (2-4, 1-0)
Luna {TJC} (2-4, 0-1) - Leaving the league
❤HankyPinky (1-5, 1-0) - Leaving the league
Countess (1-5, 0-1)

The final games finished out about how I expected, but it's very unlucky that Math Wolf finds himself 3rd in what ended up being a tough newbie group. He has some catching up to do in the seasons to come.

GROUP K2 - FINISHED
PanagiotisTheGreekFreak (5-1) - WINNER
DR. Love (4-2, 2-0)
rouxburg (4-2, 1-1)
Hunta (4-2, 0-1)
ℳℛᐤ✕ (3-3)
Coyote151 (1-5)
Arni (0-6) - removed for inactivity

GROUP K3 - FINISHED
13CHRIS37 (6-0) - WINNER
<SNinja> Leinad (4-2, 1-0)
Pink (4-2, 0-1)
culpa (3-3)
Madmen (2-4, 1-0)
AWOL Gls AJ (2-4, 0-1)
THE1AJK (0-6)

The group finishes without much fanfare, and AJ will be hungry to finish better in the upcoming seasons.

GROUP K4
Smutny Edgar (6-0) - WINNER
Hasdrubal (5-1)
[GER] Florian (3-3)
Ragnar (2-3)
[NL] bassoonplayer (2-4)
Aste (1-4)
Mike (1-5)

Ragnar has already lost to Smutny, but has one remaining game against Aste. Aste finishes 5th with a win and 7th with a loss.
Promotion/Relegation League Season 19: 6/26/2016 19:51:08


Pushover 
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So in summary, groups A, B, C, and K4 are still outstanding.

Group I has a tiebreaker tournament here:
https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer/Tournament?ID=19617
Promotion/Relegation League Season 19: 6/26/2016 19:52:29

Ollie 
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I am sorry push, sometimes life is just more important... i have my last exams in the coming 3 days. After that i have plenty of time and will create all games manually to catch up with the rest of the tournaments. Shouldn't take more then 2 weeks to finish from there.
Promotion/Relegation League Season 19: 6/26/2016 19:53:24


Pushover 
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No problem Ollie, thanks for communicating!
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