If your not mature enough for children, your not mature enough for sex, in my opinion.

Here's my opinion on Abortion: If a person over 21 tries to get more than two abortions not related to rape, then they have to get permanently sterilized.

Because if they are an adult and are that irresponsible, they will probably never be responsible enough to raise a child.

I can understand how sometimes kids can do stupid sh*t, but at 22, if your still that stupid, then you have severe responsibility issues, and you are NOT in any way fit to be a mom.

I think the fact that many people are unfit to be even decent parents is a fact that is not touched on; in some cases, I even think some children that are aborted are, in a sense, lucky in some cases.

Having said that, I still don't support abortion, as it shouldn't be present in a responsible society.

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Forcibly being sterilized might be going to far.


And there are several legal problems with it to.

how about we dnt force women to have children they dont want and let them do what they want with their bodies

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I don't think so.

I think people with a extremely high risk of genetic defects, cancer, etc. (IE, there was a news story about a whole extended family who had their stomachs removed because the risk for stomach cancer was that high for them, they should NOT be allowed to spread that to other children) should also be sterilized, along with people with mental disorders, rapists (because many rapists DO rape again).

My opinion: Conservatives can have a charitable organization that will pay folk to not have abortions, and to put the children up for adoption in orphanages. This organization can also educate about sex, and give out birth control and condoms. Also defund planned parenthood, no corporate handouts.

This is the best way to keep government out of the equation, and keep this as peaceful as possible.

@ e_e

your very ignorant, aren't you? Not really a "big picture" person, are you?

if you want to reduce abortions u provide free contraceptives and free sex education

and smedley's plan is nice

but remove the option to do abortion and force women to have children?

no. there are reports show that women do the abortions anyway without a safe environment and many of them harm themselves in the process

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This isn't removing the option, this is not funding something with stolen money.

Read what I wrote you idiot.

I never said remove abortions.

Also, your an idiot if you think 1/10 as many women would have abortions if they were illegal.

• Highly restrictive abortion laws are not associated with lower abortion rates. When countries are grouped according to the grounds under which the procedure is legal, the rate is 37 abortions per 1,000 women of childbearing age where it is prohibited altogether or allowed only to save a woman’s life, compared with 34 per 1,000 where it is available on request, a nonsignificant difference.


https://www.guttmacher.org/fact-sheet/facts-induced-abortion-worldwide

The proportion of abortions that are performed under unsafe conditions is not currently known. However, complications from unsafe abortions are common in developing regions, where the procedure is often highly restricted. Estimates for 2012 indicate that 6.9 million women in these regions were treated for complications from unsafe abortions, corresponding to a rate of 6.9 women treated per 1,000 women aged 15–44.2 Furthermore, most recent estimates suggest that some 40% of women who experience complications never receive treatment.

Almost all abortion-related deaths occur in developing countries, with the highest number occurring in Africa. Recent studies estimate that 8–18% of maternal deaths worldwide are due to unsafe abortion, and the number of abortion-related deaths in 2014 ranged from 22,500 to 44,000


http://www.who.int/reproductivehealth/topics/unsafe_abortion/magnitude/en/

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SMEDLY! That is indeed good.

e_e, I really don't think you can compare woman in underdeveloped countries having an abortion because they can barely afford to live and people in developed countries having an abortion because its "inconvenient."

And again, read what I wrote at the top. You are just spouting the traditionalist rhetoric.

funny enough that the rate of deaths from an abortion are higher in south america where there is restrictive abortion laws

http://www.who.int/reproductivehealth/topics/unsafe_abortion/magnitude/en/

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That's entirely understandable.

SA is much more underdeveloped, so far any medical treatment, theres a higher chance of death or infection.

47k women die from unsafe abortions

and ya i read your post

Edited 5/25/2016 22:52:02

+1 Smedley lol

In my opinion you can not force someone to do something with their own body. Where does it stop?

In my opinion you can not force someone to do something with their own body. Where does it stop?

Women have complete control over their bodies. However the baby inside her isn't her body, it has it's own body. It's own set of organs, when a baby kicks, you're not kicking yourself, and it's certainly no clump of cells.

It is not a citizen.

if you want to reduce abortions u provide free contraceptives and free sex education

We have been doing this more and more in recent years. Have abortions gone down?