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Did You Know? #1: 7/20/2016 06:20:41


AWESOMEGUY
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In 0% SR a 3v2 attack always works!


Strategy!
Did You Know? #1: 7/20/2016 06:29:31


knyte 
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In any 1v1 template with an odd number of starting territories (and manual distribution), you will never get both your first pick and your last pick without also getting your 2nd pick. In any 1v1 template with an even number of starting territories (and manual distribution), you will never lose your first pick to an opponent but also get your last pick.

Strategy!

Edited 7/22/2016 07:48:32
Did You Know? #1: 7/20/2016 06:35:12

Krzysztof 
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In any 1v1 template with an odd number of starting territories (and manual distribution), you will never get both your first pick and your last pick.


1,2,6 not possible on ladder settings?
Did You Know? #1: 7/20/2016 06:43:35


Bonsai
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Strategy roasted. End of thread.
Did You Know? #1: 7/20/2016 06:57:35

Semicedevine
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idk knyte's probably referencing something

but if the reference is to AG then um... nice logic

Edited 7/20/2016 06:58:51
Did You Know? #1: 7/20/2016 07:02:15


Timinator 
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Krzychu nailed it :P


However, you can't lose your 1&2 in a 1v1. This is strategy!
Did You Know? #1: 7/20/2016 11:29:11


Beren • apex 
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I think knyte was thinking of the fact that with an odd number of picks like the ladder where the order is like ABBAAB player A can't get his last pick. And similarly with an even number of picks, of you get your last pick you know you had first pick overall.
Did You Know? #1: 7/20/2016 13:12:35


PanagiotisTheGreekFreak
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I think knyte was thinking of the fact that with an odd number of picks like the ladder where the order is like ABBAAB player A can't get his last pick. And similarly with an even number of picks, of you get your last pick you know you had first pick overall.


Beren,assume your 3,4,5 are opponent's 1,2,3 ,then you get 1,2,6
Did You Know? #1: 7/20/2016 13:22:40


Beren • apex 
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Yes, I know that. But if you get first pick, your opponent gets 2 picks then you get 2 picks. Then you can't get your 6th, since your opponent has only gotten 2 picks at the point when you are getting your 3rd.
Did You Know? #1: 7/22/2016 07:37:25

Medium Earth, Myself, and I
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What Beren means is that in ABBAAB A (read: guy who got first pick can't get his 6th pick, ever). Whereas whoever doesn't get first pick can get their 1st and 6th picks.

ie.

You get 1st pick, you get your 1.

My 1 was different than yours, so I get my 1 and 2.

You get your 2 and 3. Your 2 and 3 and 1 were my 3/4/5, so I now get 1/2/6.
Did You Know? #1: 7/22/2016 07:42:54


knyte 
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Yeah I was thinking specifically of ABBAA... pick distribution. Don't know the specific name for that setting and couldn't find much on the Wiki.

Lemme write it out:

1- goes to A- A gets first pick
2- goes to B- B can get first pick or 2nd pick
3- goes to B- B can get second pick or 3rd pick
4- goes to A- A can get second, 3rd, or 4th pick
5- goes to A- A can get third, 4th, or 5th pick
6- goes to B- B can get third, 4th, 5th, or 6th pick

Ah you're right. I was only thinking of A here (or was trying to state "you got first pick order" in a way that'd be useful on Turn 1). I guess I've forgotten more than I thought.

So I guess, if you got your last pick... you know your opponent didn't get their first. This is true for odd-numbered picks.

Strategy? Clumsily fixed the original. :P

Edited 7/22/2016 07:48:46
Did You Know? #1: 7/22/2016 07:50:53

Semicedevine
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knyte heres ur proper terminology

if you get 1st pick, ur never getting 6

if you get 2nd pick, its possible to get 6

if you get 2nd pick and the opponent is a complete noob with no idea how to prioritize picks, its posslble to get both 1 and 6

Edited 7/22/2016 07:52:08
Did You Know? #1: 7/22/2016 07:58:13

Semicedevine
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So I guess, if you got your last pick... you know your opponent didn't get their first.

ur saying that your opponent doesn't know your 6th pick?

(if so then thats very true which is why 6th pick is useful for putting in an extremely unsafe bonus far away from your other picks but still be technically considered "safe")

holy sht balls knyte i cant make out a single sentence of what u mean lol
Did You Know? #1: 7/22/2016 08:18:30


Genghis 
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WL Strategy in a nutshell is and always has been the scene from the Princess Bride.

All you can do is try to make good picks based on the dist. And hope to god you get lucky on an 80% or 2
Did You Know? #1: 7/22/2016 08:31:09


knyte 
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if you get 1st pick, ur never getting 6


That's not the case, as Krzychu pointed out. If you get 2nd pick order, it's possible to get 1st pick and get 6th.

Idek I've just been trying to go with what I thought was a "useless advice"/"things you already know" theme.

Edited 7/22/2016 08:31:40
Did You Know? #1: 7/22/2016 13:49:40

Medium Earth, Myself, and I
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"So I guess, if you got your last pick... you know your opponent didn't get their first. This is true for odd-numbered picks."

Wrong. If you get 6, you know your opponent did get their first pick

"That's not the case, as Krzychu pointed out. If you get 2nd pick order, it's possible to get 1st pick and get 6th." If you got first pick, you're not getting your 6th pick, ever.

No, it is the case. Semice doesn't man if you get YOUR first pick, he means if you get first pick, as in you are "A", the person the first pick is allocated to.

I get first pick. I get 1. You then get 1/2 or 2/3. I then get my next two, which cannot include my 6th pick because you've only picked two things thus far, at most you took my 2/3 forcing me to get 145, alternatively I can get 123 (you took none of my early picks) 124 (you picked my 3) 125 (you picked my 3/4) 134 (you picked my 2).
Did You Know? #1: 7/22/2016 17:57:05

Semicedevine
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1st pick and 2nd pick refer to A and B

but if you're refering to the actual picks you made during picking phase, use numbers (1,2,3,4,5,6)
Did You Know? #1: 7/22/2016 18:02:38


OxTheAutist 
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In 0% SR a 3v2 attack always works!

Wrong!

I once did this.

And last order...

My opponent took it from me with a 3 again so the 3 didn't take the 2 :(:(
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Did You Know? #1: 7/22/2016 18:15:06


Mirage
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In 0% SR if you want to capture a territory and you have two terrories of your own bordering it with 1 spare army on one of them and 3 armies on another, what is the best way to attack it ?
Did You Know? #1: 7/22/2016 23:13:47


Benjamin628 
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depends, if it is the only way to take it (i.e you are being pressured) attack with 1 first, then 2. Otherwise deploy on on the 3, you will have 2 extra leftovers.
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Did You Know? #1: 7/29/2016 23:28:53


Benjamin628 
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I think that this thread has limited strategic value, but it is still there. Two main things still to talk about are:

1. Whether to attack 3v2 or 4v2 in WR.
2. Whether to attack 1v2 and 2v1, or 3v2 in SR.
Did You Know? #1: 7/30/2016 05:39:33

Semicedevine
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Bonus fact: if you tap a neutral lf 4 with 1 army attack twice, and the take it 3v2, you're able to take ir by deploying 1 less army

but if you just take it from a 6v4, you need to deploy one extra army, but you end up with 3 leftovers instead of 2 (as what would have happened mentioned above) so you're technically not gaining nor losing any armies at the same time

which expansion strategy to choose from always depends on where you want your leftovers to be

Edited 7/30/2016 05:39:59
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