In 0% SR a 3v2 attack always works!


Strategy!

In any 1v1 template with an odd number of starting territories (and manual distribution), you will never get both your first pick and your last pick without also getting your 2nd pick. In any 1v1 template with an even number of starting territories (and manual distribution), you will never lose your first pick to an opponent but also get your last pick.

Strategy!

Edited 7/22/2016 07:48:32

In any 1v1 template with an odd number of starting territories (and manual distribution), you will never get both your first pick and your last pick.

1,2,6 not possible on ladder settings?

Strategy roasted. End of thread.

Krzychu nailed it :P


However, you can't lose your 1&2 in a 1v1. This is strategy!

I think knyte was thinking of the fact that with an odd number of picks like the ladder where the order is like ABBAAB player A can't get his last pick. And similarly with an even number of picks, of you get your last pick you know you had first pick overall.

I think knyte was thinking of the fact that with an odd number of picks like the ladder where the order is like ABBAAB player A can't get his last pick. And similarly with an even number of picks, of you get your last pick you know you had first pick overall.

Beren,assume your 3,4,5 are opponent's 1,2,3 ,then you get 1,2,6

Yes, I know that. But if you get first pick, your opponent gets 2 picks then you get 2 picks. Then you can't get your 6th, since your opponent has only gotten 2 picks at the point when you are getting your 3rd.

What Beren means is that in ABBAAB A (read: guy who got first pick can't get his 6th pick, ever). Whereas whoever doesn't get first pick can get their 1st and 6th picks.

ie.

You get 1st pick, you get your 1.

My 1 was different than yours, so I get my 1 and 2.

You get your 2 and 3. Your 2 and 3 and 1 were my 3/4/5, so I now get 1/2/6.

Yeah I was thinking specifically of ABBAA... pick distribution. Don't know the specific name for that setting and couldn't find much on the Wiki.

Lemme write it out:

1- goes to A- A gets first pick
2- goes to B- B can get first pick or 2nd pick
3- goes to B- B can get second pick or 3rd pick
4- goes to A- A can get second, 3rd, or 4th pick
5- goes to A- A can get third, 4th, or 5th pick
6- goes to B- B can get third, 4th, 5th, or 6th pick

Ah you're right. I was only thinking of A here (or was trying to state "you got first pick order" in a way that'd be useful on Turn 1). I guess I've forgotten more than I thought.

So I guess, if you got your last pick... you know your opponent didn't get their first. This is true for odd-numbered picks.

Strategy? Clumsily fixed the original. :P

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WL Strategy in a nutshell is and always has been the scene from the Princess Bride.

All you can do is try to make good picks based on the dist. And hope to god you get lucky on an 80% or 2

if you get 1st pick, ur never getting 6

That's not the case, as Krzychu pointed out. If you get 2nd pick order, it's possible to get 1st pick and get 6th.

Idek I've just been trying to go with what I thought was a "useless advice"/"things you already know" theme.

Edited 7/22/2016 08:31:40

"So I guess, if you got your last pick... you know your opponent didn't get their first. This is true for odd-numbered picks."

Wrong. If you get 6, you know your opponent did get their first pick

"That's not the case, as Krzychu pointed out. If you get 2nd pick order, it's possible to get 1st pick and get 6th." If you got first pick, you're not getting your 6th pick, ever.

No, it is the case. Semice doesn't man if you get YOUR first pick, he means if you get first pick, as in you are "A", the person the first pick is allocated to.

I get first pick. I get 1. You then get 1/2 or 2/3. I then get my next two, which cannot include my 6th pick because you've only picked two things thus far, at most you took my 2/3 forcing me to get 145, alternatively I can get 123 (you took none of my early picks) 124 (you picked my 3) 125 (you picked my 3/4) 134 (you picked my 2).

In 0% SR a 3v2 attack always works!

Wrong!

I once did this.

And last order...

My opponent took it from me with a 3 again so the 3 didn't take the 2 :(:(

On the WL wiki, they're used to be a Easter egg saying along the lines of;

"Once you reach level 100, Fizzer will knock at your house and give you mushrooms"

In 0% SR if you want to capture a territory and you have two terrories of your own bordering it with 1 spare army on one of them and 3 armies on another, what is the best way to attack it ?

depends, if it is the only way to take it (i.e you are being pressured) attack with 1 first, then 2. Otherwise deploy on on the 3, you will have 2 extra leftovers.

FK > AG duhhhh

If your first 6 picks were in Europe. Your opponent can't be pink lace color unless it's a Thursday, it's raining and you had eggs for breakfast

I think that this thread has limited strategic value, but it is still there. Two main things still to talk about are:

1. Whether to attack 3v2 or 4v2 in WR.
2. Whether to attack 1v2 and 2v1, or 3v2 in SR.