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California University now segregating dorms.: 9/10/2016 00:26:15


Wally Balls 
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PEOPLE WHO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF OUR GENEROSITY


he said all minorities, not people who take advantage of our generosity.
California University now segregating dorms.: 9/10/2016 00:27:23


Wally Balls 
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who is an anarcho-capitalist?
California University now segregating dorms.: 9/10/2016 00:30:50


Major General Smedley Butler
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>Neo-National Socialist that thinks that his ideology isn't anything other than a collection of gunk from Germans bitching about Germany losing WW1 and dead Klan members claims that a actually consistent ideology is shitposting
California University now segregating dorms.: 9/10/2016 00:43:13


Eklipse
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Last time I checked it was the Asians and Africans who built the US. So tell me again, who are "we"?

Sure you might've been cracking the whips, but the ones building the nation were the ones doing the work.


New York, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, California, and a crap-ton of other states that didn't rely on slavery would like a word.

The poor white farmers in the south who grew the actual agriculture to feed both slave and slavemaster alike would probably like one too.
California University now segregating dorms.: 9/10/2016 00:46:58


Major General Smedley Butler
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The poor white farmers in the south who grew the actual agriculture to feed both slave and slavemaster alike would probably like one too.

It was more the ones in the Midwest, but both used cotton picked by slaves. It was afterall give and take.
California University now segregating dorms.: 9/10/2016 00:49:58


Major General Smedley Butler
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You're whole idea for security is private police!

One, your*, two, militaries provide little normal security and there's little threat of invasion when the whole world is Ancap.
California University now segregating dorms.: 9/10/2016 01:04:34


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military is never intended for domestic security in the first place anyway; only against foreign security(against other nations), and if there is no external threat left(either by one world government or complete anarchy with no governments) then it should be abolished as well. just my two cents at least.

the idea of private police isn't bad either; most rich corporations already have their own private security and they are doing just fine. the only problem is that there should be some "regulations" or limits to private security so one corporation won't get enough power to completely crush everyone else and turn into what we would call "tyranny".

oh and lastly, http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/029/970/trainn.jpg?1260328965
California University now segregating dorms.: 9/10/2016 01:15:00


Major General Smedley Butler
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Kek, the world will never be anarcho-capitalist.


"Uhh, I don't know how to rebut his statements, I should just say he'll never get his goal and end it at that. Wow, I won that so easily, just say everyone else will never get their goal and I win!"
California University now segregating dorms.: 9/10/2016 01:19:41


Жұқтыру
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the idea of private police isn't bad either


In Russia, the "private police" will make you pay so that they won't bother you, they will mug you, they will kill you, and they will get away with it.

In selfstanding Chechnya, this problem was one of the starts of the Other Chechen War - the invasion of Dagestan by an Islaamish brigade, but before that, many raids going past the Terek, kidnappings, civil war.

Some might be ideologically motivated to do some things by "moral" standards as well, like killing those who do drugs, mugging Turk and Mongol immigrants, and mugging tourists to bring the foreign money to the great homeland. And some might be legitimately good, trying to stop crimes that the watch is either to scared, legally not in bounds to, or paid off to not stop.

Edited 9/10/2016 01:20:54
California University now segregating dorms.: 9/10/2016 01:23:59


Major General Smedley Butler
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In Russia, the "private police" will make you pay so that they won't bother you, they will mug you, they will kill you, and they will get away with it.

We have that in the US. It's called the US Government. Now if you want actual private police and not mafias, here's:

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/texas-town-sees-61-drop-crime-firing-cops-hiring-private-firm/

http://sealsecurity.com/
California University now segregating dorms.: 9/10/2016 01:28:04


Stewie
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and we have the "public police" usually abusing their power here in Turkey too; maybe in lesser "violent" ways, but it's still there.

in the end, anything that abuses power - be it private or public - is bad, and that's why I stated this earlier;

the only problem is that there should be some "regulations" or limits to private security so one corporation won't get enough power to completely crush everyone else and turn into what we would call "tyranny".


there should never be one "big, unchecked" power that can get away with such abusements, this goes for both public and private. Competition between private sectors(and also of government's) is the only direct way to avoid such problems.

Edited 9/10/2016 01:28:25
California University now segregating dorms.: 9/10/2016 01:41:45


Жұқтыру
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We have that in the US. It's called the US Government.


When is the last time the USA held a gun to you (a slip by a jump on the trigger would do some bad)? Or the last time an actual mugger asked for 30% of your money if you make more than 50k$ each year, 20% if you make less than that, and 5% of the worth of your land, and then wielded some of that money to hire a guard for the neighbourhood, a neighbourhood bookloaner's, labs and upper teaching buildings, and help pay for your health?

And more weightily, so why wouldn't this happen in some kind strengthless emptiness?
California University now segregating dorms.: 9/10/2016 01:45:12


Major General Smedley Butler
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When is the last time the USA held a gun to you (a slip by a jump on the trigger would do some bad)?

They don't need to hold a gun to folk, just flash it around.

Or the last time an actual mugger asked for 30% of your money if you make more than 50k$ each year, 20% if you make less than that, and 5% of the worth of your land, and then wielded some of that money to hire a guard for the neighbourhood, a neighbourhood bookloaner's, labs and upper teaching buildings, and help pay for your health?

Mm you're right, muggers ask for a wallet full and don't act like they're doing you a favor, they're better.
California University now segregating dorms.: 9/10/2016 01:47:25


Major General Smedley Butler
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And more weightily, so why wouldn't this happen in some kind strengthless emptiness?

Governments don't rise out of nothingness, they rise out of tribes and other pieces of broken governments.
California University now segregating dorms.: 9/10/2016 01:58:20


Wally Balls 
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smegma butter,

who will build the roads in your fantasy land?
California University now segregating dorms.: 9/10/2016 02:02:29


Huitzilopochtli 
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buh muh roadz

Edited 9/10/2016 02:02:37
California University now segregating dorms.: 9/10/2016 02:03:14


Major General Smedley Butler
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smegma butter,

who will build the roads in your fantasy land?


Private construction companies. They already build the roads, the government contracts out to them on a lot of occasions. Having folk pay for it cuts out the middle man.

You know that who'd build the roads is a meme now right? It's one of the easiest to rebut questions to ask Ancaps, you really ought to ask something more sensible.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/22/ed/83/22ed832163f685d570c9d1439e00b820.jpg
California University now segregating dorms.: 9/10/2016 02:07:53


Eklipse
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Private construction companies. They already build the roads, the government contracts out to them on a lot of occasions. Having folk pay for it cuts out the middle man.

Pfffft. "Folk" won't pay for jack squat. I live in a private subdivision where the government has no obligation to maintain the road, and thus the maintence fund only comes from those who live out here. Guess what? Less than half actually pay into it, despite everyone needing the road. The road promptly goes to crap due to slouches who won't pay even when the need becomes desperate.

Our only choices are to either form a sub-division organization to force payments, thus getting sued because "Tyranny! MUH MONIES!", or to sit around while the road gets worse and worse.

AnCap on a small scale, and it fails quite tremendously.
California University now segregating dorms.: 9/10/2016 02:07:54


Жұқтыру
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They don't need to hold a gun to folk, just flash it around.


Threatening to pull a gun and threatening while a gun is pulled are two different things.

muggers ask for a wallet full and don't act like they're doing you a favor, they're better.


I don't mean no offence, but you aren't telling me you'd like sicilianu to rule over you than the USA government?

Governments don't rise out of nothingness, they rise out of tribes and other pieces of broken governments.


Samsung hires "private police" and other mercs. It makes agreements with other businesses that did the same over claims of land and operation in which they can extort folk. And they do it.
California University now segregating dorms.: 9/10/2016 02:10:26


Жұқтыру
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Pfffft. "Folk" won't pay for jack squat.


Mm, even underground organisations are usually under foreign government leadership and funding.
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