Businesses would pay for roads

I say few roads because of the free rider problem and you repeat: 'roads would exist'

No shit roads would exist. The problem is there would be fewer roads than there are now because of:

The free rider problem

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So because I said that folk are likely not to be so altruistic to pay for random roads in Arkansas, I don't understand my own ideology?

No because you don't even know the correct way to answer my objections. We're discussing the most basic argument non-ancaps have and you still dont' know the correct talking points to use in response. I don't think you even know what the free rider problem is.

This is exactly why I started with roads. I wanted to see how well you understand anarcho-capitalism. And you clearly don't know very much. So it would be pointless to talk about the NAP or covenant communities or seasteads or probably even something like Somalia or objective morality. I'd be the one teaching you instead of you being able to address my arguments.

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You repeating the same phrase over and over again doesn't make it more of a thing. The problem for your claim that the free rider theory applies here, is that drivers will also end up paying for roads through tolls. Meaning that there is still money being put in by the so called free riders.

Also, take the public good/free rider model and apply it to real life too; it doesn't exactly fit well.

The local turnpike was supported by the more prominent citizens, but it is not as though a handful of affluent landowners paid for the project. Stock subscription was broad-based, In most cases upwards of 50 people contributed, usually over 100 for a larger turnpike, no one with more than 15 percent of the stock. After the most travelled routes had been converted to turnpikes, it became more difficult to raise money for their construction, but nonetheless turnpikes continued to be built, even though, by 1805, hope of direct remuneration had disappeared. Yet between 1805 and 1838 over 500 turnpikes were chartered and built, each one representing a separate instance of public good provision. Even though the turnpikes offered enormous nonexcludable benefits, far outweighing the costs of the project, a straight application of the simple public-goods model would lead us to doubt that many turnpikes were built and that a single one was built after 1805.[/i]

You clearly do not understand the free rider problem. 'More of a thing' LOL. That's the fundamental reason most people think we need taxation. If you don't understand and can't argue against the free rider problem, you're going to have a hard time advocating for anarcho-capitalism.

"People will pay tolls" is not a valid counter argument.

You're a poser. Actual ancaps would laugh at you and tell you to stop calling yourself an ancap. You're not.

Mmm you're right(not about the poser part), I see what you mean. Anyway, that quote shows that voluntary action can get around the free rider theory, through social pressure.

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You think or are pretending that roads are binary. "Will they exist? Yes/No."

That's not how it works. They have roads in Africa. They're not like the roads in America. Nobody disputes that there will be roads in your society. What we want to know is will they be like the roads in Africa or the roads in America? Nobody can answer that question. They could be either. And that's the problem.

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