Yeah, i was wondering that myself when i joined my game. Thanks for update

too late to join?

Silly question, is there a reason why certain players have higher or lower ratings after the first game? It seems like ineffable/tbest are getting different treatment than the rest of us?

@pushover:

I wish i knew it. Rating is calculated the same way as ratings for warlight ladders - by program described in wiki (http://wiki.warlight.net/index.php/Ladder_Ranks_and_Ratings). I've checked some variants and for me it looks like it can give odd results when there are no way to compare players - with such games:
A defeated B,
C defeated D,
E defeated F
we can't say A = C = E. In this scenario inputing results in different order gives different ratings. But, when we make comparing players possible (ie. by adding player G(nuffone) and his games:
G defeated A,
G defeated C,
G defeated E
ratings looks exactly as we can expect(G with the highest rating, followed by A, C, E all with same ratings, followed by B, D, F also with the same ratings).
So i suppose, that there is simply not enough data for reliable calculation(thus the minimum number of games for getting rank). But it's only my guess and i won't pretend i understand exactly how it's calculated (there is really serious math behind that;)). Anyway, I've asked the same question to Fizzer earlier today. Maybe he knows - if not, we can only put faith in Remi Coulom's math and coding skills :P

@banana - you can join at any time

Rating systems will all be very flawed with small samples. Need more games to really tell

I was wondering why didn't i have a game even if i join the ladder for like 2 or 3 days? Is it some CLOT problems?

Well surely if two players rated 1500 play and one beats the other one, the resulting ratings for winners and losers should always be the same?

In this scenario inputing results in different order gives different ratings.

Weeeeeird.

Edited 12/9/2013 07:58:09

In this scenario inputing results in different order gives different ratings.

First picks possibly? Ineffable may be the only winner so far to have gotten first pick, thus his rating is a bit lower.

"I was wondering why didn't i have a game even if i join the ladder for like 2 or 3 days? Is it some CLOT problems?"

If there is an odd number, someone will not be matched up. It looks like it is even now, but maybe he stopped creating matchups while fixing some issues. If you stop the CLOT, it won't delete current games, but will stop running the script that matches people up.

yeah, it's weird, but it surely doesn't depend on picks. Advantage for 1st pick is set to 0 in this ladder.

@sirius - games are created at specific days(few posts above), if you missed the first(and you missed it), you will probably get your first game at the 2nd -(Wednesday). However, like ChrisCMU wrote, there can be odd number of players and you may be the one omitted guy, but in this case you will probably get 2 games next time(1 for sure, but there's still small probability that you will be the unlucky one again;)).

k cool, then i would like to give it a try

well, you are welcome, but you need to join on your own:P

got it ;)

Edited 12/9/2013 22:46:05

@Chris and Kryzchu, thx for answering my problem :)

i got 2 new games today

intentional?

lucky you ;) i would have more game but i cannot :P

Lucky? I'm trying to keep my gamescount low and now i get 2 games :/

I am trying to keep low my gamescount too, but one more 1v1 don t change much.

I'm not entirely sure, what's wrong with my games?

yes, it's intentional - you were present in the ladder during last game creation (4 days ago) but you didn't get game (because there was odd number of players), so now you get 2. Hopefully i'll add possibility for every player to choose number of games he wants to play before january (in reasonable limits, 4-8/month probably), but for now you can reduce the number of games only by leaving ladder before the next game creation (19.12) and rejoin after it.

@widzisz - your opponents didn't join in 3 days, so both games were deleted

Edited 12/15/2013 20:58:11