X, this is ridiculous, it's like saying that if Putin lost to Zhirnovsky, it was rigged. Why would the person that was endorsed by the majority of the government, including the top ruler, lose if it was rigged?

Who knows? There can be many grounds, but The one thing that's sure is that there's nothing chosen by the folk anywhere. Not to say also that Zhirinovski generally likes Pootin - Trump generally likes Clinton and her "service to the country".

Not to say also that Trump is a mainstream party member.

It's pretty much an apples to oranges comparison since the national vote is used literally zero elections.

in America*

Edited 11/13/2016 22:22:13

You shouldn't have to specify which country you're talking about every time you post a response since you can assume that your interlocutor will recall this basic fact. For example, The Prince of Felidia does not have to specify that clinton received more votes "in america" and not in angola.

You shouldn't have to specify which country you're talking about every time you post a response since you can assume that your interlocutor will recall this basic fact. For example, The Prince of Felidia does not have to specify that clinton received more votes "in america" and not in angola.

most times yes, but saying

national vote is used literally zero elections.

confuses. It's clearly wielded in many picks, maybe even more than indirect voting.

Edited 11/13/2016 23:23:32

The Electoral College saves the gigantic country of the US from turning into a civil war zone every election. I don't like it, but I would take the College over what is seen in "aspiring democracies" any day.

It's no secret, since Aristotle we've all known democracy is a shit system.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkZ5e94QnWk

Who knows? There can be many grounds, but The one thing that's sure is that there's nothing chosen by the folk anywhere. Not to say also that Zhirinovski generally likes Pootin - Trump generally likes Clinton and her "service to the country".

Democracies exist, they might not be 100% non-corrupt, but it's pretty sure that some of it (the majority in this case) is non-corrupt. Also, saying the "oh you're ok" line that is almost obligatory with politicians is not grounds to say it's rigged.

Not to say also that Trump is a mainstream party member.

Yeah but that's not grounds to say it's rigged.

Democracies exist

how would they?

saying the "oh you're ok" line that is almost obligatory with politicians is not grounds to say it's rigged.

it's not obligatory

that's not grounds to say it's rigged.

well, let's just say that if it was International Socialist party I'd be surprised

how would they?

a system of government by the whole population or all the eligible members of a state, typically through elected representatives.

it's not obligatory

is almost obligatory

Russia rigged the election ofc.

One major cadidate claims the election is rigged if they don't win.

Wins....was it rigged? Probably. With more little over 50% voter turn out. Is this really what America wanted? Or is this just want some people who genuinely feel like this man is their savior, want.

Wins....was it rigged? Probably

Now this is a real conspiracy

With more little over 50% voter turn out. Is this really what America wanted? Or is this just want some people who genuinely feel like this man is their savior, want.

Not many folk voting=/=rigging

"Obama wins with little over 50% voter turnout. Is this really what America wanted? Or was it just some people who thought this man was a savior wanted?"

This all just the same crying and moaning that happens after every.single.election.

We live in a polarized society split roughly 40/40/20. That means they'll be a lot of losers no matter what. Shall we riot after every change of government?

Also, you don't have the right to cry about the "poor abused opposition" that's going to get the other side's policies forced on them unless you also protested the same concerns when your own side was in power.

Conservatives/Liberals/Independents

I have come to the conclusion that Tabby is a terrorist. Woof!

Not like conservatives didn't protest when Obama got elected and reelected. Or continually shouted how our president wasn't from the U.S. Or how he was actually a Muslim working to destroy the US.

You expect "liberals" to take the moral high ground when they watched for 8 years people do the same thing against Obama.

He drug most of us out or the recession. If you can assure everyone that trump isn't going to get chewed up and swallowed by Washington politics, and that he isn't going to be for all those things he said in his rallies, then yeah. Maybe we might have a good president.

The hard truth of this is, republicans and those who voted republican this time around WANT liberals to take the high ground so that they can act out again when everything flips on them again in four years

You expect "liberals" to take the moral high ground when they watched for 8 years people do the same thing against Obama.

Considering how you talked about how it was the right and patriotic thing to do for eight years, yeah, being consistent is expected.

"Oh wait, force will be used against us instead of us using force?! No! This is soo racist!"

@Des, Once again you're using "they started it" as a defense. That is not nor has it ever been valid logic. We'll never get anywhere with this childish game.

I'm quite aware of the antics Republicans pulled with Obama. It was stupid when they did it, it's stupid when you do it.

Someone needs to break the cycle of idiocy, rather than justifying it because the other side was being petty first.

We live in a polarized society split roughly 40/40/20

The actual split for this election was 35/26/39 conservatives/liberals/moderates, just saying.

a system of government by the whole population or all the eligible members of a state, typically through elected representatives.

and how would it be?

It's just like if you trusted Google or something to record all the votes. Evidently they're going to pick the candidate friendliest to Google, yet Americans for some grounds think that the government is uncorruptible.