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Rookie v Veteran (SC 40%): 12/1/2011 17:29:17


Guiguzi 
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i used a sanction card on them. they are banned from all competitive play.
Rookie v Veteran (SC 40%): 12/1/2011 17:48:07


the Donkey 
Level 63
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oops am i assumed to note opponent i'm using sanction card or other cards when i play it? i couldn't read this thread all. pls let me know. thx
Rookie v Veteran (SC 40%): 12/1/2011 17:52:57


lobstrosity 
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I generally agree with emoose. The experience was most fun for me because I was faced with the novel challenge. I do not believe playing with these settings once in a while (especially if it is against a strong opponent) is going to teach bad habits to the rookie. I do not see how playing against a vet with reduced income would stop the rookie from playing against a "real vet." The whole point is that strategy is what makes a vet, not specific settings we are used to. I don't want to teach rookies "what to do on turn 3 when you have an income of 8" I want to teach them strategy that applies in all situations.

In my mind the true learning experience comes from the tips and pointers at the end of the game, and the settings are just a nice way to bring together players that otherwise would not have a fun game together.
Rookie v Veteran (SC 40%): 12/1/2011 19:56:22


denzyman 
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@Dirty Bee
You inform your opponent only about using Sanction Card.
Rookie v Veteran (SC 40%): 12/1/2011 20:38:16


NuckLuck (Retired) 
Level 30
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http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer.aspx?GameID=1758930

Great settings Gilg! I played Sunny Rain, and was subsequently obliberated (Despite sunny not playing his sanctions card untill turn 2). I played mine on turn 8, hoping to one up Ruthless's win...needless to say this did not occur, a fun game regardless.

Feel free to put me down for another Gilg (I would make it, but I thought you might like to be the creator so that you can continue to add to any statistical data you might be compiling).
Rookie v Veteran (SC 40%): 12/1/2011 20:54:49


Richard Sharpe 
Level 59
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So tempted to make a hockey comment right now...
Rookie v Veteran (SC 40%): 12/1/2011 21:47:18


Perrin3088 
Level 49
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Bumblebee, with that clan name, you should be discarding your sanctions card...
Rookie v Veteran (SC 40%): 12/1/2011 22:08:24


denzyman 
Level 5
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http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer.aspx?GameID=1764387

I feel like I played my card just in time to grab last chance of pulling the game. Still, if Heartheadstomach had concentrated on me instead of growing, I wouldn't have had a mere chance (I don't even say about unused Botswana possibility. oops, said that).
Rookie v Veteran (SC 40%): 12/2/2011 01:15:59


gilgamesz 
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@ emoose and lobstrosity:
Thanks guys, your last comments say, what I am right now unable to write, in foreign language right now - just to tired :-)

@NuckLuck
Your opponent was actually really good! But you fought bravely!

@Denzyman UA
Thanks for playing - maybe one more?
Rookie v Veteran (SC 40%): 12/2/2011 02:38:44


lobstrosity 
Level 56
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http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer.aspx?GameID=1759136

Game with Tru is over, I won without using the sanctions card, but mainly because Tru focused on expanding instead of fighting me early on
Rookie v Veteran (SC 40%): 12/2/2011 03:59:11


Polat Alemdar 
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http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer.aspx?GameID=1769922

what about europe map with this settings.i think this is better to teach rookies how to pick and how to move. a veteran player can win without using SC
Rookie v Veteran (SC 40%): 12/2/2011 10:43:22

emoose 
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[emoose vs. The Impaller](http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer.aspx?GameID=1758897)

Not that I didn't believe it before, but this showed me how good a true veteran really is. It's mind-boggling to me how well some of his moves were thought out, as well as the fact that he beat me outright before playing his SC. The picks alone amaze me the more I think about them...

Still playing my 2nd game with Fizzer, but I'll post those 2 games up when it finishes.
Rookie v Veteran (SC 40%): 12/2/2011 22:10:39


Oliebol 
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http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer.aspx?GameID=1758958

My game with James, he did an excellent initial expansion.
Rookie v Veteran (SC 40%): 12/2/2011 22:38:29


Monsenhor Chacina 
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gilgamesz : please, can you set up a game in which i am the rookie and the impaller is the veteran... maybe i can beat him then!!!
Rookie v Veteran (SC 40%): 12/3/2011 06:02:19


Monsenhor Chacina 
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Rookie v Veteran (SC 40%): 12/4/2011 12:01:10

emoose 
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Alright, here are my 2 games with Fizzer:

[emoose vs. Fizzer - Round 1](http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer.aspx?GameID=1758994)

[emoose vs. Fizzer - Round 2](http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer.aspx?GameID=1759573)

I learned a lot from the 3 games I've played so far, so thank you to gil for coming up with the idea and setting the games up, as well as Fizzer and The Impaller for playing me.

First game with Fizzer showed me how horribly wrong my pick tendencies were. Second game (against Impaller) still dazes me when I think about Impaller's picks, but I did learn an important lesson on how to use Blockade effectively, as well as getting a lot of practice with fighting across multiple bonuses that are near completion. Although I hadn't quite gotten the hang of picks before the start of my 2nd game with Fizzer, I had some time to practice in 1v1 auto-games before it really got going, and I held my own quite well near the end (I'm confident I would have won if I had done my picks differently).

One thing to note, my 2nd game with Fizzer was at 75% luck (couldn't change it since I created the game) and rather than the 1000-turn SC, I altered it to have a 7-turn duration. I very much liked it this way as opposed to having the vet play a Sanction after x turns because nothing unexpected happened to my per-turn armies, which was such a big difference that I honestly didn't notice any difference when the SC wore off. I'd strongly recommend that change to any rookie/vet duo that's playing additional games with the SC.
Rookie v Veteran (SC 40%): 12/4/2011 20:40:49


szeweningen 
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http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer.aspx?GameID=1782034

Now you know how to use that idea to make games with AI challenging. I screwed up the picks (thought I would be fast enough with my expansion), but it turned out that -40% was too much for me (and I know, I played badly first 10-12 turns, especially australia). That came as a surprise to me, because I thought I'd win easily.

So, now let's have an open contest, who can beat AI with sanctions card? The most powerful sanctions card wins!
Rookie v Veteran (SC 40%): 12/5/2011 09:02:39


Perrin3088 
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I propose Impaller uses a 95% sanctions card on turn 1
Rookie v Veteran (SC 40%): 12/5/2011 09:19:20


Perrin3088 
Level 49
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Szewen..

why not just turn on surrendered players turn into AI, then sanctions yourself?
I noticed you never bothered to even the playing field with your own sanctions cards..
Rookie v Veteran (SC 40%): 12/5/2011 09:24:35


Perrin3088 
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Szewen, also am changing luck to 16% for my test..

http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer.aspx?TemplateID=133491

also changed sanction to 55%, although I will probably be owned by it, lol
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