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German centric European Superstate: 2/22/2017 05:40:09


The Cruelest
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After watching this video, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4_tyEl84IQ&t=779s, I realized that Europeans need a Germany centric European Superstate to solve the debt crisis and lead to the ultimate triumph of Western civilization over all who would dare oppose.

I have always loved Germany. Germany is also responsible for liberating us Finns from the cancer of Communism. Germany is my third favorite nation, after Finland and then Prussia (RIP).
German centric European Superstate: 2/22/2017 06:32:08


Zephyrum 
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If you give this idea to a modern german, you'll probably get called a nazi.
German centric European Superstate: 2/22/2017 06:43:25


Belgian Gentleman 
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EU already exists and it's under Belgian authority
German centric European Superstate: 2/22/2017 09:08:40


Major General Smedley Butler
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This is literally the concept of the EU
German centric European Superstate: 2/22/2017 11:31:39


OttomanEmpire
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Ever heard of the EU?
German centric European Superstate: 2/22/2017 11:38:05


Belgian Gentleman 
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yes what about Greater Belgium you speak of?
German centric European Superstate: 2/22/2017 19:18:59


Von Jewburg
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Greater Belgian Co-prosperity sphere
Annex Luxembourg, Belgium. They're just richer versions of you.
German centric European Superstate: 2/22/2017 19:25:44


(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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I think it is a good idea. However it won't be the only power on Planet Earth.

The UN should be replaced by the Council of Technologically Advanced Nations (CTAN).
German centric European Superstate: 2/22/2017 19:39:45


Leibstandarte (Vengeance)
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STAN*
German centric European Superstate: 2/23/2017 20:25:25


Major General Smedley Butler
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Also, you'd have zero chance for an actually democratic system if Germany dominates it, as would be necessary across a continent, just like with the EU. Germany has never been a free country in it's history since maybe the times of tribes and fighting Rome. It shows in that there is massive censorship throughout the modern history of Germany (that video is not available in your country), some political ideologies being outright banned, and Stasi being put in charge of monitering people on the internet (I thought Stasi monitering was supposed to have been gone after East Germany fell). Do you seriously expect a state dominated by an undemocratic culture to ever produce a union tasteful to all the various peoples of Europe in any way? Of course not, you cannot satiate the needs of these different folk with one size fits all acts that come from such a union.
German centric European Superstate: 2/23/2017 20:45:02


(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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^Nobody cares. Germany will rule due to its high IQ and work ethics. The only nations that can compete with a German-led Europe are Israel, the States, East Asia and India. I bet these nations will be able to get along and rule over the rest of humanity or we will have something similar to the Black World soon.

The UN is bad and it should be replaced by the CTAN.

Edited 2/23/2017 20:46:32
German centric European Superstate: 2/23/2017 20:56:11


Major General Smedley Butler
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"Nobody cares"

Farage, Le Pen, Wilders, Hofer, etc care and this is why both the EU and the proposed German state will/would fall. Everyone within these unions that aren't ardently in agreemen with the German government would care, just like now. Germany cannot be the basis of any pan-European union that is to last for a long time.

Edited 2/23/2017 20:59:16
German centric European Superstate: 2/23/2017 21:12:35


Жұқтыру
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I don't know why God put Jesus in Israel and not in Germany.
German centric European Superstate: 2/23/2017 22:34:13


OxTheAutist 
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Germany has never been a free country in it's history since maybe the times of tribes and fighting Rome.

muh anarcho-primitivism ooga booga
German centric European Superstate: 2/23/2017 23:36:30


Major General Smedley Butler
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ooga booga autobahn
German centric European Superstate: 2/24/2017 02:59:10


(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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^What if those who refuse to declare themselves as Germans and learn to speak German get executed? I mean it's not that hard to force people to assimilate.

Steps towards a Greater Germany:
1.Military occupation of all countries in Europe other than Russia and Germany itself.
2.Disarm all Europeans other than Germans. Start language schools to force non-Germans to learn and use German.
3.Mix people from the occupied territories like what Assyrians did. Encourage people from different ethnic background to intermarry. Don't worry since Germany will control all schools hence their kids will grow up Germans. Teach the kids that the word "Europe" is a synonym for "Germany" and "European" is a synonym for "German". Of course there will be places such as "Eastern Germany", "Western Germany", "Southern Germany", "Northern Germany" etc there can be no place inside Europe (redefined to exclude Russia) that is not actually in Germany.
4.Incarcerate and maybe execute all who refuse to be Germans.

After 30 years the phrase "German European" will be redundant outside Russia. Non-German Europeans never existed, never exist and will never exist (according to Germany of course), period. They are just like dogs in Felinia, something so absurd that they are beyond imagination.

Note that this procedure also works if we replace the word "German" by "Russian", "French", "Serbian", etc. We can use a similar procedure to make all South Asians Indian as well.

Of course Germany that works according to my steps is something very similar to the Third Reich minus its rampant persecution of people based on ancestry because the Third Reich was not very open to assimilation.

Edited 2/24/2017 03:08:16
German centric European Superstate: 2/24/2017 03:25:57


Major General Smedley Butler
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^What if those who refuse to declare themselves as Germans and learn to speak German get executed? I mean it's not that hard to force people to assimilate.

Rebellion and defeat of any German superstate.

1.Military occupation of all countries in Europe other than Russia and Germany itself.

Impossible, your entire plan is flawed in that this step will never be fulfilled unless there are extraordinary circumstances.
German centric European Superstate: 2/24/2017 03:49:19


Marigold Sunshine 
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4th Reich, anyone?
German centric European Superstate: 2/24/2017 03:54:05


(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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^^Why? A rebellious populace is no match for a group of determined and ruthless soldiers. You need to be well-armed to successfully rebel against a sufficiently armed and brutal regime which is why North Korea still exists. Execute everyone that rebels.

If anything the key issues here are:
1. Grab nukes from UK and France.
2. Defeat and occupy Europe.
3. Resist Russia.

Liberals and rebels aren't on the list unless they get some good weapons.

Edited 2/24/2017 03:58:04
German centric European Superstate: 2/24/2017 04:03:15


Major General Smedley Butler
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The armed forces of Germany are simply not a large enough force to quell nationalist revolts in all of Europe and maintain itself internationally which such a superpower would need to do.

1. Grab nukes from UK and France.
2. Defeat and occupy Europe.
3. Resist Russia.


1. Is incredibly hard to do
2. Is impossible
3. Is impossible as not only would Russia compete against Germany in Europe, so would the US, along with constant rebellion internally.
German centric European Superstate: 2/24/2017 04:54:43


(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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^I agree. So who else can do it?

I personally believe that ultratotalitarianism is feasible if technology is sufficiently advanced. What do you think?

Edited 2/24/2017 04:56:01
German centric European Superstate: 2/24/2017 05:11:44


Major General Smedley Butler
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Ultratotalitarianism, as in 1984, is ultimately unsustainable when applied to a superpower as it cannot effectively compete againstany other superpower, and in a minor country, will produce an even worse than North Korea state that will be dependent on some superpower or end up ceasing to exist as the system collapses due to economic, social and political reality.

And Germany is the strongest domestic power in Europe, both naturally and currently. If it cannot complete this, no European nation can.
German centric European Superstate: 2/24/2017 07:19:44


Жұқтыру
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If it cannot complete this, no European nation can.


ugh smedley wants Syria to take over Europe, yet another ,,Syrian hugger''
German centric European Superstate: 2/24/2017 15:13:57


The Cruelest
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@Tabby That strategy has been used before in history and has worked. India was incredibly balkanized before the British united it. China wasn't unified until the Han dynasty. However, the Germans should unite all peoples of Germanic descent (Anglo-Saxons, Austrians, ect.) before moving on all of Europe.
German centric European Superstate: 2/24/2017 15:34:14


(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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^I agree. The world should be ruled by a council representing interests from three peoples, white Caucasians (including Jews), East Asians and Indians. Other peoples do not have nukes and hence do not matter that much. No offense but the world will be completely fine if suddenly all blacks disappear. (Sorry..If you are not indispensable you will not be missed if you disappear) However it will become weird if one of the three groups above is missing. Some (such as Arabs, Filipinos, etc) can be accepted as groups related to and represented by one of the three peoples. Those who can not should be ruled as protectorates and colonies.

^^^Maybe Germany can not do it but others can?

Edited 2/24/2017 15:52:59
German centric European Superstate: 2/24/2017 21:24:41


Major General Smedley Butler
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A peaceful and democratic union that isn't cancer could possibly do it, and after a century or two supplant various European cultures with a singular European culture. However, conquest at this point is nearly impossible, for any of the regional European Powers.
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