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[20] Leagues: 12/14/2011 18:01:56


Guiguzi 
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a basic rating is an obvious answer to many things. my guess as to why it's not done: fizzer still thinks the exclusivity of getting a rating on the ladders is a good incentive for attracting people to become members; to implement a rating system now for all games might be messy (what to do with the tens of thousands of games lacking a rating?); maybe fizzer just doesn't think it would add any excitement or increase our interest.

chewie's in. moley could be, still waiting to see if he wants to keep his immaculate stats or join under his first account.
[20] Leagues: 12/14/2011 18:57:13

unknownsoldier 
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apologies, name is TrueSkill http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trueskill
- it is similar to the ELO-type ranking used on the ladder, and for chess, etc. BUT it allows games vs multiple opponents AND team games with teammates of different rating.
this would allow 1 rating across all game-types.

all players would have to have a rating, BUT if Fizzer set it so only members were told their rating, that might be a big plus in favour of buying membership, no?
[20] Leagues: 12/14/2011 19:02:27


Piropo
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i join this league. and yunshai, you dead
[20] Leagues: 12/14/2011 19:10:03


Addy the Dog 
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its not necessarily that yuan considers a veteran to be someone whos been on here longer than two months. i think the point hes making is that since the great noob influx of 2011, as historians are already terming it, those raw win % stats will be watered down. so its even less reliable as evidence for entry, as shown by the discrepancy between ladder ranking and win % for newer players.
[20] Leagues: 12/14/2011 19:21:37


Perrin3088 
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Afaik, the reason fizzer hasn't implemented rating systems is because of the difficulty of catagorizing the rating modifications of each and every setting modification in a game..
the ladders are controlled environments.. when you see someone with a 2050 in 1v1 ladder, you know that rating is on the map in that setting
chess has consistent rules from game to game, so ELO works perfectly for it.. but how would you have fizzer define are the rules adequate for the rating to take effect for general games?
[20] Leagues: 12/14/2011 19:52:54

unknownsoldier 
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Perrin - check out the TrueSkill page i linked to, it can give a rating in these cases.
now, you're right, it will be an 'overall' rating, but is what we are wanting, no?

also, sure it wont be perfect - maybe people play only on maps that suit them, to get better rating, etc. but it would be a good evaluation of overall warlight strength.
[20] Leagues: 12/14/2011 20:10:36

WL Fanatic 
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I'll join if there's any more space left and I'm deemed fit enough. :P I don't have too good stats but that's mostly because of all the 1 v 1s and massive games I played when I first joined (Them's were the days). But like I said, if you think I'm good enough, definitely count me in.
[20] Leagues: 12/14/2011 21:28:08


Madness 
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The problem with rankings is that some people have used the same profile since the day they joined, and those first 300 or 400 games of 1v1 against the best players they could find deflate the stats. I'd love to see Fizzer add an option where you could select the time period of stats. Something like "last 6 months, last 6 weeks, etc..."

That would give a better reading of someone's current skillset.
[20] Leagues: 12/14/2011 21:44:28


Richard Sharpe 
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Madtown... implement a system similar to that of the ladder and have the ranking only consider games played over the past X months.
[20] Leagues: 12/15/2011 01:04:48


Ribena 
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Ouch Yanshuai - no need for the personal attack. I only put my name forward.
[20] Leagues: 12/15/2011 07:29:58


Guiguzi 
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League Tournaments:

A LEAGUE RRs

- 1v1s: [Division 1](http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer.aspx?TournamentID=1680), [Division 2](http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer.aspx?TournamentID=1681)
- [2v2](http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer.aspx?TournamentID=1686)
- [3v3](http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer.aspx?TournamentID=1688)

B LEAGUE RRs

- 1v1s: [Division 1](http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer.aspx?TournamentID=1682), [Division 2](http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer.aspx?TournamentID=1683)
- [2v2](http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer.aspx?TournamentID=1687)
- [3v3](http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer.aspx?TournamentID=1689)


C LEAGUE RRs

- 1v1s: [Division 1](http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer.aspx?TournamentID=1684)
- C LEAGUE might not be a functional league for the first season, and instead might be a supplementary pool of players to fill gaps (declining players) in A's and B's RRs. We'll see...
[20] Leagues: 12/15/2011 07:40:37


denzyman 
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Joining supplementary pool.
[20] Leagues: 12/15/2011 08:49:48


Guiguzi 
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C LEAGUE won't exist. All players were moved to B LEAGUE. C's Division 1 is now B's Division 3.
[20] Leagues: 12/15/2011 09:06:41


Guiguzi 
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[20] Leagues: 12/15/2011 09:17:13


denzyman 
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:(
[20] Leagues: 12/15/2011 09:33:43

Heyheuhei 
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And where i came
[20] Leagues: 12/15/2011 09:42:03


Guiguzi 
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you want in hhh? A League is waiting for you...
[20] Leagues: 12/15/2011 12:22:32


Chewie 
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I changed my name at what appears to be an inopportune time as I have not been invited to compete for the wooden spoon that is B Division League 3 :)

I'm assuming you can still extend me an invite or do I have to wait the 20 days to change my name back ;)
[20] Leagues: 12/15/2011 12:27:51


Guiguzi 
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it's ok.
[20] Leagues: 12/15/2011 13:05:44

Heyheuhei 
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I like good fights
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