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Is this person a racist?: 5/7/2017 14:03:15


H-to-the-O-V
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They think black people are 'objectively less productive and more violent than other races' and the cause is 'culture and genetics' and they want black people to 'please fix that.'

I think this makes Tabby a racist. He doesn't think so, he just considers himself an 'irrationalismist' or something.
Is this person a racist?: 5/7/2017 14:04:17

[FEL]Chatul
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^That's something I have data to back up. Facts are just facts, not a part of any racist ideology.

Furthermore I'm a rationalist, not an irrationalist.

Don't edit my post to make me look bad. I said "for whatever reasons, be it oppression, culture or genetics".

Edited 5/7/2017 14:16:21
Is this person a racist?: 5/7/2017 14:06:40

[FEL]Chatul
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First let's start from the crime rate in America.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/tables/table-43

This is official data from the FBI, not some American Renaissance stuff.

Here are the demographics of America in 2010.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_the_United_States

It's clear that the percentage of criminals among blacks is much higher than the percentage of Americans who are black.

In case someone claims that the black crime rate is artificially boosted by racist policing I have data that the Japanese American crime rate was lower than the white one back before the Civil Rights Movement despite racism.

Edited 5/7/2017 14:13:04
Is this person a racist?: 5/7/2017 14:10:30

[FEL]Chatul
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Now let's move on to GDP per capita of post-colonial Africa compared to East European and Asian countries.

Here is the data from World Bank.
http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.PCAP.PP.CD
Note that I use GDP PPP per capita here, not the nominal one.

Edited 5/7/2017 14:18:40
Is this person a racist?: 5/7/2017 14:37:26


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GDP is probably the worst variable you could possibly use to determine supremacy of a country/race.

Black people are not objectively more violent and less productive, it just often turns out that way due to the way they grow up, and the cycle repeats.

I think that since he said "objectively", I would say that that is indeed racism.
Is this person a racist?: 5/7/2017 14:41:57


(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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Black crime rate is not just high in US. It is also high in UK.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime_in_the_United_Kingdom#England_and_Wales_crime_statistics

Note that "Chinese and other" people were 1.6% in 2009 but were only 1.4% of the population in prison so the problem isn't necessarily racism.
- downvoted post by Wally Balls
Is this person a racist?: 5/7/2017 14:43:10


(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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Now let's move on to Brazil. The same phenomena happens.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_apartheid_in_Brazil#Race_and_crime
- downvoted post by Scratch
Is this person a racist?: 5/7/2017 14:45:13


(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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^LOL. Three accounts.
Is this person a racist?: 5/7/2017 14:45:44


(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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@Benjamin628 Men are much more criminal and violent than women. Am I a self-hating male for admitting that? Facts are just facts. No emotion involved.

Why are facts about blacks racist while facts about men aren't anti-male?

Oh wait..you are all a bunch of NTs who can not separate facts from emotions. Never mind.

Edited 5/7/2017 14:57:36
Is this person a racist?: 5/7/2017 15:27:59


{Canidae} Kretoma
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The problem is you correlate skin colour with theese figures which does not make sense. You cannot discuss "black people" behavior without discussing the discrimination they have faced and still face. Marginalisation leads to poverty. Poverty leads to crime. You have to remove theese factors to fix the problem, more marginalization will make it worse.
Is this person a racist?: 5/7/2017 15:37:53


(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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^Jews were marginalized in Europe. They did not commit crimes like crazy.
Chinese people are marginalized in Malaysia. They do not commit crimes like crazy.
White South Africans are marginalized in modern South Africa. They do not commit crimes like crazy.
Japanese Americans were marginalized. They did not commit crimes like crazy.
Japanese Brazilians were marginalized. They did not commit crimes like crazy.

So what are you talking about?

Not all black people live in non-black majority nations or countries with non-black rule. Does being a ruling majority make the population less violent? Nope?

Also that has nothing to do with melanin / skin color. The average Indians have a lot of melanin but they are much more peaceful.

Edited 5/7/2017 15:41:45
Is this person a racist?: 5/7/2017 15:46:38

[FEL]Chatul
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As for poverty causing crime, the average Ukrainian probably does not always have access to hot water while the average black American probably does. Is Ukraine one big ghetto?

And..let's remember Vietnam. Do Vietnamese form many gangs and kill each other like crazy in Hanoi? If you can visit Hanoi or Flint, MI which place are you going to visit?

India has a lot of poor people. The streets are dirty and people suffer from malnutrition. Yet India is safer than many black locations. Why?

Edited 5/7/2017 15:50:45
Is this person a racist?: 5/7/2017 15:51:12


Japanball
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Flint MI.
At least the coffee's good
Is this person a racist?: 5/7/2017 15:57:31

[FEL]Chatul
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^LOL what it is unsafe.
Is this person a racist?: 5/7/2017 15:58:53


Japanball
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I'm sure the Viets wouldn't be a fan of me in Hanoi
Is this person a racist?: 5/7/2017 16:01:15

[FEL]Chatul
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^I would expect that they will be friendly to you though. I doubt anyone there hates British people.

Edited 5/7/2017 16:02:24
Is this person a racist?: 5/7/2017 16:02:25


Wally Balls 
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Tabby is it true that you had a black girlfriend once and she cheated on you repeatedly with black guys and that's why you hate black people?
Is this person a racist?: 5/7/2017 16:03:00

[FEL]Chatul
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Nope.

Why are you so emotional, NT?
Is this person a racist?: 5/7/2017 16:03:49


Japanball
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He's macroliberal.
Is this person a racist?: 5/7/2017 16:03:50

[FEL]Chatul
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^^^My ideology is actually very easy to understand if you understand what interests I represent and what my own racial insecurity really is.

It is actually still possible to make peace if you guys are willing to reach a global compromise with us.

Basically I belong to a class of nerds who can not evolutionarily survive any society that has free love because my class relies on the provider role in reproduction. With free love and welfare we are being gradually priced out evolutionarily. We are good at STEM. We work hard. We are peaceful. Yet we are getting priced out while you people who do not love science but instead love sex increase in number.

We aren't close to extinction yet but we are have sensed the threat. The threat is serious and we are bitter about it.

Edited 5/7/2017 17:09:10
Is this person a racist?: 5/7/2017 17:41:52


{Canidae} Kretoma
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"Jews were marginalized in Europe." Yes, in a different and definetly worse way. If you look into 19th century "Rassenkunde" you see the different stereotypes. Jews and Semites in general: Efficient, trade focused but morally deprived and evil. Mongoloids: Organized, law abiding but no ability for critical thought, also physically inferiour. Africans: Physically superiour and hard working but lazy and stupid." Of course the statute about Jews was: "They did not commit crimes like crazy." Exept for when their call for equal rights, their polical thoughts (and there were A LOT of Jews in the Communist movement) and their whole existence was a crime (since the Roman Empire in different parts of the world at different times, there were hundreds of Smolensks happening). You could even say they were marginalized TOO much (well, that sounds horrible, so forget that thought).
"Chinese people are marginalized in Malaysia." They share a similar History with Jews, thou less extreme of course. "They do not commit crimes like crazy." What does that even mean? Crimes like crazy happen in warzones, do not exagerate.
"White South Africans are marginalized in modern South Africa." For roughly 25 years. They also had hundreds of years to accomolate wealth so it will still take time to drive them into poverty. "They do not commit crimes like crazy." Lets look again in 2060.
"Japanese Americans were marginalized." See a patern here? Both Chinese and Japanses were Economic immigrants (with the Chinese falling more into the refugee category in Malaysia, but not only) and therefore not the type of person who goes into that much crime normally for obvious reasons (there are exeptions like with North Africans in France, of course). "They did not commit crimes like crazy." Yes.
"Japanese Brazilians were marginalized. They did not commit crimes like crazy." No need to bring up this pint, you have told of Japanese migrants before.

"So what are you talking about?"
There are diffent types of marginalization that come with racism. See above.

"Not all black people live in non-black majority nations or countries with non-black rule. Does being a ruling majority make the population less violent? Nope?"
That is so full of generalisations, i am not sure what to say about it. You still marginalize the history. EVERY ONE of theese countries was a colony with the sole purpose of extration resources for mostly non-blacks with the use of black-people-slave labor.

"Also that has nothing to do with melanin / skin color. The average Indians have a lot of melanin but they are much more peaceful."
You are right here. It is all about the type of discrimation/marginalization an ethnicity face. An example from your own home, the Americas. What group has the hightest crime rate? The hightest poverty range? The highest marganization of the slavery type? You know the answer, and it is not African Americans.

Edited 5/7/2017 18:21:52
Is this person a racist?: 5/7/2017 17:46:01

[FEL]Chatul
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^I need to leave now so I will respond later.

Europe is falling, so will NE Asia. I will tell you why.
Is this person a racist?: 5/7/2017 17:50:12


machine-washed bliss
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tabby is fuelled by responses, so just dont respond.
- downvoted post by Wally Balls
Is this person a racist?: 5/7/2017 21:01:08


OxTheAutist 
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Europe is falling, so will NE Asia. I will tell you why.

Funny how Tabby, Cruelest and the gang always claim to have the answers to everything, yet for some reason they're not in positions of power. What absurdity!

I think it's best things stay that way.
Is this person a racist?: 5/7/2017 21:14:03


Eklipse
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I agreed with Wally until he started using alts to circlejerk himself.
Is this person a racist?: 5/7/2017 21:23:13


The Cruelest
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There is NO evidence that racism causes crime. If black people are really being bullied so much then why do they have a lower suicide rate then white people? The connections between discrimination and suicide rates are firm. Jews under Hitler had 40% suicide attempt rates. Other "undesirables" had higher suicide rates under Hitler than normal.

Additionally, Adults with AS are discriminated against for their odd social habits, ect compared to those with similar test scores. 66% of AS adults have suicidal thoughts, 35% attempted suicide, and 31% reported depression.

The connection between discrimination/marginalization and crime is purely conjecture. The connection between discrimination/marginalization and suicide is historically documented and is accurately measured. So if discrimination causes suicide and not crime then why do blacks have higher crime rates and lower suicide rates? Because Tabby is right.

Edited 5/7/2017 21:24:51
Is this person a racist?: 5/7/2017 22:08:26


Жұқтыру
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There is NO evidence that racism causes crime.


Umm, have you heard of hate crimes? If you keep up your spiel you're going to soon be worse than Tabby.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/02/28/suspect-in-kansas-bar-shooting-of-indians-apparently-thought-they-were-iranians/

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39072816
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