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A world without the United States: 6/3/2017 14:22:42


Major General Smedley Butler
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Ohh please, what did the US do to stop Putin's aggression in Europe? What did the US do against Krim and Ukraine? Nothing, but talking. What do they against Russian airstrikes in the middle east? Nothing but talking. If Russia invaded the Baltics today (members of NATO) the US would just talk to Russia, but not send a single airplane or soldiers, because "Muh America first!".

I mean if you ignore all the aggression the US has been doing yeah they did nothing, but in general you just hate America so you can't let facts get in the way of that.

guilty nations

REEEEEEEEEE COLLECTIVISTS OUT OF MY THREAD REEEEEEEEEE
A world without the United States: 6/3/2017 14:28:26


Major General Smedley Butler
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Fascinating. The last time I checked Western Europe and the USA were the bastions of Democracy. Representative government. Which literally derives power from THE people FOR the people and commits all actions IN their name. If the populace of said countries elect selfish ignorant leaders who flaunt the rights of everybody else and works for their national interest with no regard for the human cost then those of us not involved in the very least have a right to call them out on it.

Democracy is a cancer for this reason, it gets folk into the mindset that they are the nation and the government, it allows for the mindset that other peoples are responsible for their government's actions and as such can all be evil and killable, amongst it's other flaws.
A world without the United States: 6/3/2017 16:24:34


{rp} eisenheim
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I didn't say they could be killed. I said that at the least, we can ask, attack and question them.
Accountability is what is lacking these days.

I am willing to bet if we asked the people that voted for the scrotum bro's (G. Bush and Dick. C) they would say no we aren't responsible for Fallujah nor the atrocities in Iraq. True they aren't guilty of those actions. What they are guilty of is electing leaders who ordered said atrocities. As long as the masses refuse to hold their leaders accountable, the mass atrocities will continue to happen.
A world without the United States: 6/3/2017 17:14:07


Eklipse
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Ohh please, what did the US do to stop Putin's aggression in Europe? What did the US do against Krim and Ukraine? Nothing, but talking. What do they against Russian airstrikes in the middle east? Nothing but talking. If Russia invaded the Baltics today (members of NATO) the US would just talk to Russia, but not send a single airplane or soldiers, because "Muh America first!".

"The U.S needs to stop their interventionist foreign policy!"

"The U.S does nothing and needs to intervene more"

Stop being a hypocrite and pick one.

you even terror yourself and blow up your own Trade Center. Patenthic.

I thought you said your education system was supposed to be superior to ours? This statement doesn't convince me.

They don't have the capability or technology to build an empire.

?????

They have the world's largest population, so can in theory field an army as large as they desire. They have most the natural resources they need. As for technology they're quickly approaching on-par with the rest of the world. Chinese empire building would be fairly easy if they had the desire to do so. The main reason they don't is because China can currently get just about whatever it wants by throwing their economic weight around, so military coercion isn't necessary.

I am actually more worried about US-Supremacy, because they have the technology and ressources to seriously be a threat to the world.

Yeah, the U.S sure has been annexing a lot of smaller countries lately haven't they? I'm sure Mexico and Canada are shaking in fear of U.S tanks about to blitz across the border at any moment.

the record of guilty nations.

Every nation is guilty of something. Your overzealous desire for "justice" would leave everyone suffering worse than before.
A world without the United States: 6/3/2017 17:40:28


Clint Eastwood
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"The U.S needs to stop their interventionist foreign policy!"

"The U.S does nothing and needs to intervene more"

Stop being a hypocrite and pick one.

Pretty much what I said up there. Couldn't agree more. People (even a lot of Americans) just want an excuse to hate the US.
A world without the United States: 6/3/2017 17:45:08

Joseph
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Hating the American goverment is absolutely justified, no doubt about it.
A world without the United States: 6/3/2017 17:50:03


Clint Eastwood
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The government, yes. Everyone hates the US government, myself included. But we're talking about the US as a whole. The government is just a small part of the US.
A world without the United States: 6/3/2017 18:08:37

Joseph
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The USA is based on a republic, so the goverment represents the voters.
A world without the United States: 6/3/2017 18:08:57


Жұқтыру
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Yeah, the U.S sure has been annexing a lot of smaller countries lately haven't they?


that's not the point, no country has been doing that for a very long time (militarily), the point is that they're violent and have colossal arms industries and lobbies, the biggest in the world, and for them, the most profitable war is an unending one.
A world without the United States: 6/3/2017 18:18:49


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A world without the United States: 6/3/2017 18:20:26

Joseph
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A republic is not the same as a democracy. Switzerland is a democracy but I can't say the same about the USA. The voters that elect warmongers are just as guilty as the perpetrators.

Also, who do you mean by freemasonry?
A world without the United States: 6/3/2017 18:23:51


Clint Eastwood
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Switzerland is a democracy but I can't say the same about the USA. The voters that elect warmongers are just as guilty as the perpetrators.

That literally does not matter. So what if we voted for an orange, narcissistic piece of shit? We still voted for him, making us a democracy.
A world without the United States: 6/3/2017 18:24:40


Cata Cauda
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"The U.S needs to stop their interventionist foreign policy!"

"The U.S does nothing and needs to intervene more"

Stop being a hypocrite and pick one.

That's not what I said. Reread, please.
A world without the United States: 6/3/2017 18:29:40

Joseph
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That literally does not matter. So what if we voted for an orange, narcissistic piece of shit? We still voted for him, making us a democracy.

If the USA was a democracy, then Hillary would have become a president, not Donald.
A world without the United States: 6/3/2017 18:32:41


Clint Eastwood
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But the US is a democracy, so why isn't she president? Oh, that's right. Because she lost the vote.

So, your logic: it's only a democracy if they vote for who I want.

Edited 6/3/2017 18:33:17
A world without the United States: 6/3/2017 18:36:16


Жұқтыру
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I found 1416 - squiggles guys!
A world without the United States: 6/3/2017 18:40:19

Joseph
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A democracy is based on the rule of the majority of people; the majority voted for Hillary in the elections, but Trump got elected as president. Why? Because of the electoral college, and that's how a republic works, not a democracy.
A world without the United States: 6/3/2017 18:40:32


Clint Eastwood
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I found 1416 - squiggles guys!

Old news. https://www.warlight.net/Forum/263429-agony-perfectionism

Edited 6/3/2017 18:40:58
A world without the United States: 6/3/2017 18:42:30


Clint Eastwood
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A democracy is based on the rule of the majority of people; the majority voted for Hillary in the elections, but Trump got elected as president. Why? Because of the electoral college, and that's how a republic works, not a democracy.

Yeah, the electoral college is what keeps the big cities from deciding the fate of the entire country. Does it seem fair for LA, with 5 million people, to decide the fate of all of Oklahoma, with only 4 million people?

And don't even get me started on Wyoming. If it weren't for the electoral college system, Wyomingites might as well not even vote.

Edited 6/3/2017 18:43:52
A world without the United States: 6/3/2017 18:42:38

Joseph
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Tabby, who are the oligarchs?

Edited 6/3/2017 18:43:05
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