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Let's make Diplos GREAT AGAIN!!!: 7/14/2017 11:16:12


The Punisher
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I don't know
Let's make Diplos GREAT AGAIN!!!: 7/14/2017 11:17:11


The Punisher
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I am hosting a Diplo with an entirely new rule. Here is the link: https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=13809002
Let's make Diplos GREAT AGAIN!!!: 7/15/2017 01:39:55

The_Animus
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I have very limited experience with Diplos because as you say they aren't really that great at the moment. Or at least the ones I've done weren't.

The only suggestion I can offer is regarding declaring war. I've played Diplos where you can't declare war after the 2 minute mark.

This just resulted in a country and/or it's allies waiting until 2:01 to declare war, making it so no one else could do so after. It prevents any sort of reaction and people would always just wait till that 2:01 mark.

So for those who use this rule or something similar I would suggest it be amended to say that you can't declare war after 2:00 unless someone has declared war in the last 30 seconds.

So for example if someone waits until 2:10 to declare, people could still declare until 1:40. If someone declared at 1:40, it would again reset the 30 second timer so anyone could still declare war until 1:10 mark.

Hopefully this makes sense...
Let's make Diplos GREAT AGAIN!!!: 7/15/2017 01:53:20


Жұқтыру
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I wasted a lot of time rebonusing Imperator's 2016 map and World Nations 2012 to make it more realistic. Hopefully it comes to some use as now.

https://www.warlight.net/SinglePlayer?TemplateID=972962;
https://www.warlight.net/SinglePlayer?TemplateID=972689

I also have a lot more old diplomacy templates from back when I wasted my time on that.
Let's make Diplos GREAT AGAIN!!!: 7/15/2017 01:58:38


Жұқтыру
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Let's make Diplos GREAT AGAIN!!!: 7/15/2017 09:46:35


The Punisher
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Animus I can see what your problem is and there is an easy solution about it. Put a rule that says: When you declare war, you must wait one turn before attacking. And because I know are going to have a rule that says: If you break the rules you are PE., they are not going to attack.
Let's make Diplos GREAT AGAIN!!!: 7/15/2017 09:54:45


The Punisher
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From the 3 templates you sent I think the one that was most closely to a Diplo was the third. However I believe that Custom Scenarios are not meant so much for Diplos but for alternate history wars or some epic battles. I feel that in Diplos, players must choose their starting point rather than be given a whole country or a territory they don't like. They should have more freedom. Please keep sending more Templates or suggestions that can make Diplos Great Again or even Greater.
Let's make Diplos GREAT AGAIN!!!: 7/15/2017 19:54:02


Жұқтыру
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The first 2 templates are just rebonus, ignore the custom scenario on them.

https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=9134380; (1512 Atlantic)
https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=9210816; (1520 Atlantic)

+juggernaut rule
+balanced
+rebonus to spark wars
+sea warfare
+wastelands blocked
-rule heavy

https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=9289611 (1386 Black Sea)

+small, compact
+round (if you go one way far enough, you'll end up going to where you were)
+low player count
+deployment limit

https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=9878115; (1802 World)
https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=9659259; (1816 World)

+juggernaut rule
+balanced
+small
+round
+few players (only 1816)
-a little too rule heavy

https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=8731340; (1506 World)
+juggernaut rule
+balanced
+rebonus to spark wars
+round
-no India
Let's make Diplos GREAT AGAIN!!!: 7/15/2017 20:26:44

The_Animus
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(ΑΘΕ)Troller - I don't think that rule would solve the issue. If you only have a rule that you have to wait until next turn to attack after declaring war, then you just declare war at 0:01. Now we're right back to the original problem that no one has the ability to react to the initial declaration of war until the next turn, and then they still can't attack until the turn after that.
Let's make Diplos GREAT AGAIN!!!: 7/16/2017 07:44:03

strongkillaz
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I think our main problem is that we don't have a platform.
Let's make Diplos GREAT AGAIN!!!: 7/16/2017 08:06:53


The Punisher
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We have many problems. So write a list with the problems you have and let's have a look at them these following days to solve them.
    I will start listing my problems with Diplos
  • Players become AFK before even the game starts.
  • Players break NAPs making them totally useless.
  • There are players who are impatient and cannot wait a bit longer. They must know that Diplos need time.
  • Usually half players remain silent and/or they don't roleplay.

These were a few problems with Diplos that I have
Let's make Diplos GREAT AGAIN!!!: 7/16/2017 08:09:28


dabo1
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Players break NAPs making them totally useless.


Included in diplo mod --> no problem and becoming afk is also no problem through the support of ais, but the other problems can't be fixed through mods

There are players who are impatient and cannot wait a bit longer. They must know that Diplos need time.


Blacklist them or increase the open seat requirements so that only high level players can join

Edited 7/16/2017 08:15:28
Let's make Diplos GREAT AGAIN!!!: 7/16/2017 08:38:03


The Punisher
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  • The templates 1 and 2 were pretty decent. I don't think that they were rule heavy. If you compare them to mine, you can say that they are way heavier.
  • I like the 3rd for the scenario it has and the restrictions it has to both armies and alliances. It is also good that the rebellion system is without declaration although I like people to declare. I don't know though if in this game people become and that is my question.
  • About 4 and 5 I think that this Map does not suit both of them. I believe that in the level you are right now, you have unlocked more historical maps that would do. About the rules, I felt in the 4th that there were lacks, however, the 5th had more rules but I don't think it was heavy.
  • The 6th is the best of them all I believe. It is the only template in which I found the PE system, you put the general Diplo rules which means that automatically it is a Diplo game. But, due to being a Custom Scenario and there are many slots that have to be covered, people will be AFK, I don't know though if many players join the time you play.

In general, you are a good Diplo Template maker but you feel that sometimes you have put many rules while they are only the basic rules. You have the potential to invent new rules and that is what we want here.
Let's make Diplos GREAT AGAIN!!!: 7/16/2017 08:41:29


The Punisher
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dabo1, even high level players become impatient, I know I can blacklist them. I just wrote the problems I have as of right now. Thank you though that you gave a couple of solutions for these problems
Let's make Diplos GREAT AGAIN!!!: 7/17/2017 16:00:35


Emperor Justinian
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Does anyone have ideas for diplomacy games?
Let's make Diplos GREAT AGAIN!!!: 7/17/2017 17:26:56


The Punisher
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I believe that the host's level matters. You have another feeling if the host is level 50 and other when he/she is 20. I prefer high level hosts. 35+ level is an ok one
Let's make Diplos GREAT AGAIN!!!: 7/19/2017 01:43:59

General Hippaforalkus
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I agree
I am playing Warligth in the past years now. And finally i can do a DIPLO but i fell that less people are playing Diplo games and are less interesting than years later.

BTW, i am creating my first diplo. Although its my secound because my first wasnt a DIPLO at all cause everyone was playing as FF game. I want ideas to go to my diplo,
Thank You
Have a nice day and make DIPLO great AGAIN!
Let's make Diplos GREAT AGAIN!!!: 7/20/2017 13:21:14


The Punisher
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General Hippaforalkus, you can get some ideas if you play diplos with templates. Then you can see which rules are attracting you and put them in your templates. I suggest you to have at least the basic rules. Claim 1 territory, declare war before attacking, roleplay and if you don't follow the rules you are PE. Just give more details or add more things in these rules
Let's make Diplos GREAT AGAIN!!!: 7/20/2017 15:45:33


Zephyrum
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It's 2017, peeps. Stacking a number and Roach Your Neighbor™ is far too uninteresting when you stop being cheap and get yourself any game that has more than thirty seconds invested into making a diplomacy system.
Let's make Diplos GREAT AGAIN!!!: 7/20/2017 18:50:58


Жұқтыру
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