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Don't go playing it off as curiosity when you go saying:
"Do you plan on making a KKK clan when you get bored of playing Nazis or is there some other racial purist group that's got your fancy?"

The mockery is there and I've been offended.

We say on our clan page that we recognise the strength of the German military machine, and considering all you can do is war on Warlight, let just isolate the clan's glorifications of the Nazis onto simply the fact they could war well.

This thread was a joke that really, I was hoping Fizzer could see... I didn't want some snide remarks from those thinking its okay to have their niggle at other people on the forum, despite all the disclaimers we stress. Its not okay. I expected better conduct from a member of 101st - probably the top clan on the game.

Now its 4am, I've broken my word on not wanting to reply on this thread anymore.

For anyone reading in future, T4R is not a Nazi clan, we do not endorse Nazi beliefs. We are a roleplaying clan who have latched on to one of the most intriguing periods of military history - the Third Reich. Although it may be controversial in some respects, we stress that we isolate our likening only to the military prowess.
If any members of T4R behave in a manner that goes against this then please bring it to mine or Fuhrer's attentions and we will resolve.

That is me done, 4am Heisenberg out. No more horrible posts please, Warlight is a community, lets let it stay that way and not turn up noses at eachother.

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We don't even say that Slammy... We have a ranking system however it is based on being a good player, not being a Nazi. If you're too dense to comprehend this then please, go elsewhere. We don't glorify the Nazis per say, we don't aim to glorify anything they did. We are more about the war machine that was behind Nazi Germany.

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I'm Jewish, lost family to your beloved Reich, your war machine.

I lost my great grandfather in WWII. It's the FOURTH Reich, not the third. Only the third was Nazism. Have you forgotten the first and second? That is ignorance on your part if you have.

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You lost them to the Third Reich, not some strangers on the internet. I'm young, 17, to be precise. However, arrogant can be called into question. The holocaust was a terrible event but I suppose with my age it doesn't really affect me at all, I'm studying it right now in my A Levels, so I have a decent degree of knowledge. I also know that it wasn't just the Jews who suffered, far less Jews died than Russians but I've seen no Russians kicking up a fuss here (a side note, I personally think it is wrong that the Jews coin the holocaust as their disaster as I previously mentioned, far many more Russians died, as did a lot of other groups i.e the 'outsider groups' which did not fit into the 'Volksgemeinschaft').

...But what I do see some form of emotional blackmail springing up now, so I'm gonna let this end now because its kinda hard to keep any high ground in a debate against a Jew when the topic is the holocaust. I am sorry for your loss and I want to end this on a good note for perhaps my maturity will exceed me. Good night, can we please just forget this now, I've been grinding my teeth for hours against attacks on my clan here for what really, was a post addressed to Fizzer.

Good night Slammy, thank you for practice against criticisms of my clan, I really don't want to have something else to reply to.. I like to have the last word so please, for my arrogance's sake let me have that. Night :)

His point is that there has been no distinguishing between Third and Fourth Reich. 1st Reich was the HRE, 2nd was post unification (of 1870) Germany. But can we just leave this as it is now, I'm off to bed. xxxxxxxx

Also, I don't think he has </3

New page :p

Oops, 31 not 41

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i don't think it is the best idea for a clan but can we just stop this argument? this is why people have shyed away from the forums...

I personally don't see what's horrible about a bunch of people playing around for the sake of roleplay. If you ever roleplay as NSDAP Germany you will see tons of easy roleplaying options, and I always have a fun time doing so (not to say that I get in this situation often.) But I think we are getting mad at an incorrectly named clan. I realize it would have been different because of it isn't 'the next' great Germany, but the Wehrmacht or the Heer would have been a more appropriate name for the clan. I have only experience with a few T4R members, but from my experience they aren't NAZIs or related to glorifying NAZIs, just admirers of the Wehrmacht (like some of us were when we were little kids) or people wanting a clan tag. There's really no reason to grt mad about them unless they are praising the sneaky political machine that controlled Germany for 12 years , just pretend that the T4R is the Wehrmacht clan, which the Wehrmacht doesn't include the Concentration Camp System, Einsatzgruppen, or SS.

Germany is not the reason why WW1 and WW2 started. Hitler actually destroyed Germany, their economy, and society. He destroyed the soul of Germany with his ugly, hate filled society.

This is why after WW2, the American's, Russians, etc., made the local germans clean up some of the internment camps, so they could see what their "inaction" led too in human suffering!
What Hitler did wrong was that he committed suicide and took 6-9 million lives along with him.

I'm not saying that T4R is a bad clan, I'm just trying to say that all clans is based on the leaders true self.

As an ex: If I'm a bad leader and I troll, that makes my clan a troll clan.

Look at United Nations, people claims "Marksman" the current leader trolls. His clan split into 2 factions because people don't want to follow his ways or don't like the path he chose to go. I mean at the end, Marksman is trying to sell the clan :l

Edit: The UN is a shorter version for Nazi Germany, just because the path Marksman chosed.

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For my comment above Germany isn't reason why WW2 started. @Haumptman, I agree we should have a Soviet Union(USSR) Clan.

I expected better conduct from a member of 101st - probably the top clan on the game.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA




stay tuned, for response to all the other bulljeez you post here..

Concurring with what gg said, can this all stop now? This wasn't supposed to inspire a historical debate. All I'm getting now is Fridge looking to stir stuff up now. Thank you to anyone who has helped try to clear things up regarding T4R's image, we appreciate it. To those who still want to stir stuff, I don't really see your point in still being here - directed at Fridge now.

Oh look, someone with a totally original response for a totally original remark.

[tugs collar] oh boy, neo-nazis. tough crowd

um ... have you ever noticed how aryans drive like this ...

but the jewish rodents drive like this

The mockery is there and I've been offended.

Ah, you got me. But really, it was a serious question, I was wondering if you planned on continuing in your tasteless ways. I mean if you can role play Nazis you can role play other (white) supremacist groups, right?

Funny that you should be offended. You've managed to offend a noticeable number of WarLight players just for hoisting a couple Nazi images (minus the swastika, very clever). If you wanted to role play, you should have called the clan Wehrmacht and left out the Nazi trash instead of making a shrine out of it.

Just stay off the forums and there won't be a problem, out of sight out of mind.