Szewen,

Each new season will have 4 maps: 1-2 familiar maps, 2-3 unfamiliar or less familiar maps. The best players are the best bc they can adjust to any map provided the settings have nothing special/crazy about them.

If you want a discussion, go ahead and invite people to a game to chat. Get a majority of votes for any map other than the ladder maps/settings and we can do that. If you can't get a majority or can't be bothered to be more active, I'll just pick from among the 16 maps that are worth using.

Btw., those final non-rr tournaments, will they have seats (like in play-offs) or standard random 1st round?

Also I can't invite more than 6 players into a game, so making a chat-game is possible for members only.

Buy a membership then! lol

You mean seeds (Final Four: #4 vs #1, #3 vs #2)? That'd be cool. We could do that. Though I don't think it really matters, for a couple reasons. (1) Player 1 is good, my team or I beat him when he's an AI, you lose to him when he is not. I get a slightly better seed but might not deserve it. (2) Tournaments allow us all to see the results, have a chat feature, and have a few other benefits. (3) Who makes the games? Will they be made in a timely manner?

Maybe HHH's name should look like this:

Heyheuhei# (10*^+)

* = Teammate or Self Is Often Booted or Limited Participation
^ = Joined strong teams to upset the team balance bc he didn't read the chat lol
# = HHH
+ = He smoked everyone in his 1v1 RR

I guess # does special things and + does too...

Can i join league B?
This looks interesting

Lykus, 20 is for good/great players. Invite one of the top players to a game. Beat them 40% of the time and you're in. But don't invite me please. Based solely on your post-October stats (likely inflated from 10% to even 30% due to weak competition), I don't think you'd be especially competitive in League B.

Otherwise, myhand might let you join League Z.

I'd love to be invited to whatever basement league is being considered, but not if it means having to hear from Lykus about how much he hates Christians.

20 is really strict on who they let in. Only the best of the best are alllowed.
As an alternative, I'd say check if there'll be a new edition of proving grounds. The current tourney is nearing its end, and it helped me a lot with my games.
But the creator, emgzapper, has been inactive for a while, so I don't think there'll be a second season.

Winning 40% against a top A-member would be competitive with group A...?

I've played a bunch of [20] members that apparently were in the B group. I don't know my exact win % but i could go look it up if you give me a list of all B group members.

By 'top players' I mean guys who will be invited to season two's leagues. The first season's B League was a try-out for some: 20 had just started, there were open spots; not all will be invited to the second season. If you beat guys who will not be invited again it doesn't mean much.

Szewen, do you feel the heat? I just got another win:

[WM] Szeweningen (12)
Richelieu (12)
Lobstrosity (11)
Unknownsoldier (11)

How are season 2 B players going to be determined?
By beating a Top A player 40%? Then why isn't that person in A?

Haha, you know I love good competition. Very nice of you to post those results, it'll give me more motivation for later games. It seems I have one less game finished though, so more pressure on you... #1 on both ladders and the founder... nobody expected me to claim the spot :)

You aren't very good at the 2v2 map. So you have a good deal of pressure! lol The only pressure I have is to take the 1v1s a bit more seriously. But I predict you'll be knocked out of the single-elimination tournament early, so I won't have to care about that!

Lykus, of course who is in which league will not be always objective and most [20] players were voted in or just invited. The thing is most good players play with and know each other. Most players in [20] are tournament veterans and those who choose who to let in and who are not invited will always be biased. You are welcome to invite me to a best of 5 game (preferably standard strat 1vs1, but any setting that gives enough strategic options will do), we will see what happens after that. I'm sure it's nothing personal, Gui just has a few names in mind, I also would have some suggestions so there is no way to know every good player in the warlight community. I am more than sure that if you beat me Gui will reconsider.

@Gui, I hope I get you in my first round match (if you scored place 1-4 in 1vs1 league) :)

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108 people. I will invite them all to [20]'s second season. About 40% or so will decline the invitation for a variety of reasons (too busy, too many games, only play real-time, afraid to compete against strong players, dislike me, only know how to play 1-2 maps well, dislike RRs, etc.).

Who did I miss?