My question after reading all this is: why join a clan if you're not gonna contribute to it in anyway?

And some T4R people don't care about the so called 'rank' while the majority of actives believe, "Still we must beat the Illuminati in clan rank I don't care how it's done though"
I quoted this off T4R clan forums so you know that this is a real quote.

Edited 4/18/2014 14:37:41

And you know what the next quote was, Red Army. That was a noob that said that quote, but Xethos agrees with myself and Derkaiser(?) about not worrying about that.

Well after hearing this from someone who actually has experience I can rest my case. T4R is as bad as if not worse than Illuminanti, as Hidden Hand seems to want to change his clan.

Red Army, you have been reported for releasing personal information about the clan, and for malicious intent.

lol ^^

Lawlz, do I honestly look like I care about being removed from T4R? Really? A clan with you in it, it's more of an honor to be removed.

xD he only sought to educate potential clan searchers in which clans are best. It just happened to be that T4R is not a good choice :P

Oh and at least he admitted that it was 'personal information' ;)
So that is indeed the T4R goal.

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Edited 4/18/2014 16:04:39

After that public post I doubt it's likely to work, but I'm mailing you now. Delete your post now!

Lol I meant to say before how funny I thought it was that it was an account named 'Red Army' that broke into a neo-Nazi clan :D

Edited 4/18/2014 15:58:27

neo-Nazi clan

Proof of your ignorance

T4R does not reject player that may want to join, we do not have any "entrance exams" or such.
We accept any and all players.

"Still we must beat the Illuminati in clan rank I don't care how it's done though"
That was quoted from from our clan forum, it is the view of one clan member, not a clan goal.

We are not a Neo-Nazi clan.

You have Nazi elements (Nazi military ranks, Fourth Reich emblem), but bear no relation to the Third Reich itself. You are neo-Nazis.

Your complete and utter disregard for common sense amazes me.

In no way do we represent a nationalist/socialist government. What leads us is an oligarchy-like autocracy.

We do not support racism, and support equality of all human beings.

Our only goals are to have an enjoyable time on warlight, and show others how to play.

This is how we separate ourselves from the third reich, just like the third separated itself from the second and so on.....

"Aruns stats":
Completed 2733 ranked games (928 / 2733)

1v1: 609 / 1543 (39%)
2v2: 154 / 365 (42%)
3v3: 71 / 253 (28%)

Aruns comment:

"What I see in those stats is a poor player who's been lucky to have someone to carry him in team games.

Also, you never answered my question. You said before that your clan was much better than Illuminanti. Looking at the evidence and statements I posted, how can you support your belief?"

So, what do you see in your stats?

Your 1v1 us marginally better, 2v2 and 3v3 significantly worse. Does that make you a poor player who is so bad they drag their team down even in team games?

Disclaimer: I am not defending T4R, just pointing out Arun's hypocrisy.

Edited 4/22/2014 05:05:15

Honestly T4R and Illuminati seem pretty similar

- Clan size is really big - 90 for T4R and 160 for Illuminati.
- They accept pretty much anyone - T4R's said it themselves, while for Illuminati I've gotten 3-4 invites despite not even asking.
- Both have caused clan drama on the forums - Don't even NEED to explain
- Both have names that negatively affect their reputation (Luckily for T4R, they don't need to spend another $15 if they think of a witty acronym for their name)
- Both are clans that try to differentiate themselves by having a lot of people.

Srsly though if you have to spend so much time explaining that you're not neo-Nazis maybe it's time for a name change?

I used the stats as I knew nothing else about the player in question. With me, you have a reliable set of data through the ladder; which portrays me as fairly decent.

I was invited to t4r back when i used to pick wastelands..