Pff, T4R has 20 different people constantly chatting up our groups and forums. And games, and new ideas shared every week. Warlighters has 16 people. By percentages most clans are more active, but we clearly have more active members.

T4R brings in a hundred players of which 99% become inactive after a week. Your original point was that T4R was completely different to Illuminanti. I've just exposed over half your clan that are inactive, thus making you look very similar to Illuminanti.

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Doesn't matter. Your practicing skills to win games, and recruit decently skilled players.

We teach low level players, and limited skilled Roleplayers. These low levels may not like warlight, and will go inactive without notice. Managing a smaller clan is a lot different, I wouldn't expect you to know.

It doesn't matter about my clan. It is totally irrelevant to the point you were making. You tried to portray T4R as much better than Illuminanti. This is false.

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It is, seeing as I have been in both and can make that judgement.

If somebody said warlighters sucks without knowing a thing, would you take their word for it?

Why is T4R better than? You both mass invite, you both have huge numbers of inactive members and you both have an abominable reputation.

We separate ourselves from the mess of "skill" clans which are all identical, IMO.

To show this, we teach players through our Training Camp, run by Xethos.

Roleplay is best taught by example. A new diplomacy game is sprouted every week or so.

We keep our forums full of entertaining and helpful threads alike. A thread for jokes, threads to introduce yourself, the clan blacklist of course*

Never before posed was the question to kick inactive players, as we don't want to cause more damage to the clan, than good. We are undergoing changes to benefit the clan in this way and allowing the T4R community to comment on the situation.


*Do not ask me to admit any personal information about these threads.

I like that your trainer has a pretty abysmal record.

3v3: 79 / 135 (59%)

2v2: 41 / 70 (59%)

1v1: 23 / 74 (31%)

That's not that bad. And besides, he runs it, he's not the only trainer.

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What I see in those stats is a poor player who's been lucky to have someone to carry him in team games.

Also, you never answered my question. You said before that your clan was much better than Illuminanti. Looking at the evidence and statements I posted, how can you support your belief?

Let's remember that all of this is merely opinion based, there is no facts in this argument, thus it is impossible to tell which clan is better unless there is an agreed ranking system...

I would agree, except Lawlz said some interesting things:

[Illuminanti has a]completely inactive player base

We [T4R] have a very active player base

Suggesting that he considers his clan to be better because they are more active. This is clearly false as proved by my exposure of over half of T4R to be inactive.

He later mentioned that his clan is better due to their having a great chief trainer...who appears to be an abysmal player.

We then see that it was never considered to kick inactive players (a huge oversight not helping their reputation here at all) as well as portraying themselves as pretty bitchy, having a clan blacklist thread.

So you may feel the same about Corp, UN, and LN?

They're all pretty bitchy?

I think a mass blacklist thread is bitchy yes.

Get to the point Lawlz. On what basis do you consider your clan to be superior to Illuminanti?

I consider T4R above every clan, with absolutely no reasoning :p

Ah ok. So you accept every post you have made was biased/wrong/dumb.

Nope :3

Everything I said was unbiased, right and intelligent

Yes definitely as I said :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YnQdBD2y64

I guess Lawlz never learned. I am proof that T4R. accepts anybody and doesn't care about activity. I asked to join, I was given an invite and I haven't said anything at all to them since then. Heisenberg and Fuhrer weren't as bad, but now with trolls like Lawlz T4R is done.
On another note clans like UN, CORP, LN? UN is another troll clan completely made up of inactives. CORP has a bit of inactivity but has become much better since Lawlz left, and apart from L'S recent forum capade, they've done well. Honestly, though, Arun's clan is better than any rp clan including the Guild itself.