3vs3 clot was already tried. most folks intersted in the 3vs3 agreed the best map and settings would be europe warlords no cards 0% weighted, i'm sure gnuffone or sze can provide a template.

http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TemplateID=283880

yes i completely agree. The template is right. But remove surrender must be accepted :P is a waste of times :P

Fizzer, pls make this ladder =)

Require players complete X consecutive games to achieve a rank

I'm not so sure I like this idea. To me, it penalises both parties. I understand that it's designed to combat the problem of stalling, but it also punishes the other player in the match, who is almost always innocent.

For an example of my concern, simply see this topic:
http://warlight.net/Forum/Thread?ThreadID=53134

I hope this is not too off-topic, but I've always wanted to ask:

1v1 ladder: Increase the blockade multiplier to 500% like the 2v2 ladder, or keep it at 351%

Why 351!? Why not simply 350? I used to think it was to force round up (for instance, with three armies: 3 * 350% = 10.5 vs. 3 * 351% = 10.53), but since halves get rounded up anyway, that can't be it. But then what is the reason?

also, please make small change on the realtime ladder dashboard to only say how many people are currently online and not who.

Edited 8/25/2014 17:54:32

First off, I appreciate this discussion from Fizzer.

1) My biggest thing is the luck settings, I agree with others that want a poll on %16 vs %0 and WR vs SR.

2) I agree something needs to be tweaked on matchup process. Potato and I are 11-0 and still sub 1800 rating on 2v2 ladder. Yes, I realize we should have done only 2 games at a time to start. But, a ladder should test you, not require gaming the system.

3) CLOTs. I would gladly get a 3v3 europe one going. the trouble is CLOT requires lots of tweaking out of the box to get anywhere. I think you designed it for maximum customization, which is cool, but it also requires more work to get it anywhere you want. It would be nice if you had a rating system built in, rather than going by W-L to start out. There are 3-4 of us that have worked on CLOTs extensively on here, some more successful than others, but all die. The reason is they require so much tweaking up front that the person gives up. Sure, once you have it all set, you don't have to babysit it, but they are hard to get everything you want in them right away so people roll things out incrementally and lose interest. Some help there would go a long way to alleviating all these ladder requests you get.

that's bad.
If you really want do it, you have to make a range of the opponent can play you.
Take a look of my last 1v1 on rt ladder: i lost 1 point bc he had low rating even if i won..

possible 1vs1 templates for the realtime ladder:

Baltic sea: http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TemplateID=497238

Qina: http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TemplateID=497215

Rad-Osil: http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TemplateID=496689

Turkey NO LD: http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TemplateID=490524

Macedonia: http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TemplateID=490514

Slow earth: http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TemplateID=476990

(Very nice template on MME! I would like to Abandon light fog and most ME/MME templates in Exchange)

And thank you so much for adjusting the ladders and let us vote how we want it Fizzer!

Edited 8/25/2014 19:26:10

For 1v1 and 2v2 ladders;

Ability to play more than 5 games at once (maybe member only?)


I agree with timinator's first post.

i would really appreciate more than 5 games on the ladder!

YASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Thanks so much fizzer!

Edited 8/25/2014 21:04:53

3v3 Eu ladder !

Some possible maps for rt ladder:
•Phobia
•Huruey's Castle
•Poland (seasonal)
•Macedonia
•Treasure map
•Volcano Island
•One of Qi's Middle East maps
•Red Dead Redemption (lol)
•HatG II (lol)
•Belarus (lol)
•Renaissance Italy (I can always redo, if need be)

Edited 8/25/2014 21:26:33

1v1 ladder: Change the map to Modified Medium Earth, or keep it on Medium Earth.
1v1 ladder: Change the move order to cyclic, or keep it on random.
1v1 ladder: Increase the number of games required to achieve a rank, or keep it at 15.
1v1/2v2 ladder: Require players complete X consecutive games to achieve a rank, or keep it as it is where they just need to finish X games total.
1v1/2v2 ladder: Switch to TrueSkill or keep using bayeselo.
1v1 ladder: Reduce matchmaking range or keep it at 30%.
1v1 ladder: Change luck modifier to 0% weighted random, 0% straight round, or keep it at 16% weighted random.
1v1 ladder: Increase the blockade multiplier to 500% like the 2v2 ladder, or keep it at 351%
1v1/2v2 ladder: Increase the time it takes for games to expire, or keep it as it is.
2v2 ladder: Change the map to Modified Medium Earth, Heavy Earth, Final Earth, or keep it on Medium Earth
2v2 ladder: Reduce the multiplier on the blockade card, or keep it at 500%
Real-time ladder: What templates you think should be removed
I would love to see light fog gone
Real-time ladder: What templates you think should be added
any decent one agree with apollo
Real-time ladder: Should the total number of templates stay at 10, be reduced, or increased.
Seasonal ladder: What features are you okay with seeing used occasionally: Randomized bonuses, local deployments, no-split, auto-distribution, free-for-all games, random teams, multi-attack.
I don't like all the settings and features but I believe all settings could and should be used and not everyone should play every seasonal ladder
I would avoid maps of more than 250 territories for 1v1 templates just my preference
Real-time ladder: Show number of players online, but not who. very important

other stuff

1v1 seems successful would not mess about it much what is holding it back is players actions not the mechanism
2v2 the template is not very interesting MME would help a little
but best is to use another map with at least 3 picks per player will be more interesting
seasonal i think current rating system is not suited for so many players see ottoman's run
http://warlight.net/LadderGames?ID=4013&LadderTeamID=5002
real time ladder 5 min auto boot for me is a problem any possibility on banking boot times?


edit

yes on 3v3 europe ladder if that is on the table

Edited 8/25/2014 21:46:38

3v3 EU Laddwr would be awesome and on tht not have Szeurope for the 2v2 would be almost as good.

3v3 Europe would be awesome :)

3v3 Europe ladder

Also Ineffable: If you want a 3-pick map, then Final Earth/Heavy Earth should be your vote, not MME.

I want a 3-pick template, so Final/Heavy earth for me. Honestly both are around the same amount of bonuses, I would probably prefer Final Earth with 1s turned off.

3v3 Europe Ladder please!! I'd also like it to be random teams every time but I can see why some wouldn't like that.

3v3 Europe!!! By popular demand!

is there a poll yet?