1v1
Strat ME (0% WR)
Strat ME %0 SR (New!)
Greece (New!)
Guiroma
Poland (New!)
Battle Islands

2v2
Szeuropa
China (New!)
Guiroma (New!)

3v3
Europe %0 WR (4 starts of 5 armies) (New!)
Europe %0 SR (4 starts of 4 armies) (New!)

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This is the template list I have. Could Chris or another admin confirm that?

I think Chris is getting a little ahead of himself. I'm pretty sure the members of the "council" or whatever has issues with how these templates were voted in/nominated, so there is a very good chance we will redo this step.

The templates probably won't change much anyway, but I'm mentioning this because Chris is not representing our discussions to the community.

If you add LEA to group C, there would be 10 teams in it. Assuming all 10 teams participate, it would be better to have a group C and D rather than 10 team round robins. Or 2 Cs.

Edited 10/5/2014 23:19:19

I think Chris is getting a little ahead of himself. I'm pretty sure the members of the "council" or whatever has issues with how these templates were voted in/nominated, so there is a very good chance we will redo this step.

The templates probably won't change much anyway, but I'm mentioning this because Chris is not representing our discussions to the community.

They were voted in by the clans in group A just like last season.

Yes the clans in group A get to vote but it was also said that clans that won their division also got to vote. IE: [20], {The Clan of Warlighters}, Lynx, and Blitz...... Of the previous clans didn't vote then you gotta re do it. I also thought there was something about VIW getting a say because of their long term commitment.

Can someone link the spreadsheet for this?

No, those templates are set for this season. The discussion the council is having about more people voting was meant for next season. So no, the templates this season will not differ from what i already posted

Template links?

I need to check them all first arun. Some provided were RT, so just want to make sure they are all multi day, correct boot time, respecting vacations, auto start once all players have joined, etc before posting.

No worries thanks for the effort.

The League of Nations is willing to join this tournament. We are getting our players now.

The templates are:

Strat ME	http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TemplateID=379496
Poland    	http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TemplateID=526624
Greece   	http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TemplateID=388092
Guiroma 	http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TemplateID=435109
Battle Is	http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TemplateID=526636
Strat ME SR	http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TemplateID=422053

China	        http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TemplateID=524046
Guiroma	        http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TemplateID=526645
Szeuropa	http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TemplateID=526648

EU 0% SR 4x4	http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TemplateID=526653
EU 0% WR 4x5	http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TemplateID=526656

Again, the committee will discuss division options after the final list of clans is complete. Please send me your roster if you have not done so.

Edited 10/8/2014 13:08:47

Im not sure what bias you are talking about Mablung...Do Lynx or Blitz have a vested interest in any of those clans?

Sorry but I'm not letting the issue go just yet ^^;

My qualm is that Warlighters and Master should get votes but did not, while Lynx got votes but shouldn't.

It makes very little sense to me that season 5 group A teams should vote for season 6 when it's the season 6 group A clans that proved themselves the prior season. How is Lynx more important than Warlighers in this situation?

Anyway I'm not considering this resolved yet. If 3 of 5 on the council tell me to stfu I will :P But that hasn't happened yet.

(Edit) For clarification, these are the votes that were tallied: Apex, WG, WM, GG, AHoL, 20, Lynx. (I think Master may have been asked but they did not submit votes? Not sure.)

Edited 10/7/2014 03:36:51

Pushover, lynx had every right to vote. Chris and I decided that it would give extra incentive to the clans in lower leagues that if they won their respective group, they would get a vote in the templates for next season. 20 won group b so they also got a vote. The remaining five were taken from the top five finishers in group a.

Not to mention, none of the votes were even close; these templates won by a large margin. To out this into perspective, lets say for the sake of the argument that all new group a clans should receive votes, with the tiebreaker being the only clan to win their division that did not receive a vote. That would mean replacing lynx votes with warlighters votes and making lynx's a tiebreaker. The fact is, no matter what the warlighters vote, the templates will remain the same. So it is utterly pointless for them to vote.

Also, if Chris, the clan league leader, says something is done, it's done. I've run many events and people will complain about every decision. Sometimes it just takes an executive decision to end petty discussions that will just waste time and most likely give the same results.

Edited 10/7/2014 03:46:27

@Jefferspin, well what if either a Lynx or Blitz leader personally didn't like some members in a clan? Or was friends with other members in another clan?

If you did everyone in B, that would be more balanced I think, one clan couldn't influence the decision. Based on my theory of how 2 C divisions would work, being the rated 2nd or 3rd would make your life a lot harder than being ranked 1st (because 2nd and 3rd would in the same C division, while the 1st would have to worry about the 4th ranked).

It makes very little sense to me that season 5 group A teams should vote for season 6 when it's the season 6 group A clans that proved themselves the prior season. How is Lynx more important than Warlighers in this situation?

(From the first post) We are currently voting on templates for the next league (all teams in A for next season (1), plus division B/C winners get 1 vote (2)).
This means that the following should get votes...
(1) Apex, WG, WM, GG, AHoL/Master (Whichever one doesn't demote), 20, and Warlighters
(2) 20 and Lynx, technically (but not really) Warlighters/Blitz

My qualm is that Warlighters and Master should get votes but did not, while Lynx got votes but shouldn't.
Warlighters? Definitely. Master? Only if they beat AHoL, in which case AHoL shouldn't. Lynx? Well, they did win division C...

Edited 10/7/2014 03:50:58

As for the c/d dilemma, here is my thinking. All group a and b clans rate the clans in c in order (10 for best, 1 for worse, etc.) . The clans can then be ranked by that. Each division winner will move to b next season, 2-4 in each will be allowed to stay in c, while d next season will be the low finishers and new clans. Please don't ever go above division d though, because it will take too long for new clans to reach group a.

To simplify: why should Lynx get a vote but Warlighters not get a vote? That is the main question I'm bringing up in the council.

I'm just trying to be transparent. If I'm overruled I'm overruled. But I haven't been overruled yet.