I dunno, it sounds to me like it's saying that men only talk to women because they want to sleep with them. "In real life, people like you for being a girl. They want to fuck you, and they pretend what you have to say is interesting, or that you are smart or clever." I'd be really interested to know how many men find this insulting? I know I'm skipping over the main point of the post, soz.

icvotria - take a note that that was a reply to some girl on a board (maybe 4chan or similar). It could have been a reply to an extremely stupid post..

What the cited poster stated is not a rule, but deos indeed sometimes apply. in real life "boys" will often pretend they agree with silly girls and/or are_interested in what they have to say only because they are girls, and.. younameit. It doesn't mean girls NEVER have anything interesting to say, nor that every girl is like that, because it's obviously not true.

The truth is - not only girls but generally people will never get the same attention when you limit their presence to just words they speak. Verbal communication is just a tiny bit of what you receive in a casual conversation whether you are aware of it and believe it or not.. It actually may go both ways - in an extremely handsome politician with great presence, pronounciation, body language etc will practically always have more followers than a stinky, sweat fat guy dressed in an old grey sweater full of holes and stains even when the second one's point of view and rhetoric would be flawless. We are animals. Very intelligent and complex, but still animals. and i mean homo sapiens as a whole species. not only it's male specimens...

I hadn't considered it was anything other than a sweeping generalisation, now I re-read it, it seems more likely to be directed at a particular person. I wasn't particularly wanting to disagree with the over-all message - there are plenty of extremely irritating people that I wouldn't have a conversation with just for the sake of it! - I just find it interesting to consider sexism from a male perspective, and was curious to see if any males were offended, or would have been were it directed at men and women in general, rather than a specific poster.

icvotria, let me just say that if the image i posted contained the word "only" i wouldn't have posted it.
(and indeed, i would even have found it insulting, because it wouldn't be true)
i did not find anything interesting in this thread aranka had said,
while she spoke poorly about the "TITS or GTFO"-option in her poll,
so i figured i 'd clarify it a bit more.
(does this clarify it for you as well, aranka ? )

Fair enough. Sorry, I hadn't considered that it was supposed to be specific rather than general. The brand of feminism that's been touted around hasn't been to my liking so I think I felt a bit over-excited to wade in when I found something that I could be all seximsm's-bad-high-horse about!

no need to apologize, the pic actually *did* come from one of the most horrible/harsh place on the internet(as Mushishi guessed) namely 4chan.

Also, the origin of the phrase "TITS or GTFO" most likely came into being/so popular because of guys like [WM] anonymous, who pretend to be girls for attention...

powerneg - when did Red say he's a girl? did i miss a coming out of some sort or something?

On page 5 or 6 i posted tits, do you need anything else to prove that i'm not a girl? If you know what i mean...

mushishi - 4th post this page

If you have time to post, you have time to make moves on your games! Make them! Thanks.

I didn't mean to say I didn't get the meaning what the article was trying to say...the reason I said I didn't understand it was because I couldn't understand the reasoning behind it.
Other people have already adressed the topic here with regards to this rather narrow minded definition which took place here so I won't bother people any further with answering in that regard.

So right now I'll just focus on the topic of this current situation:
It's your right if you would want to ignore me based on the assumption I have nothing to contribute at all on this forum. I'm not asking for any "girl advantage" here. It might be a characteristic but I myself never asked for this girl advantage. If it seemed I did it was because I was unaware of this girl advantage.
I wouldn't post bare tits or anything at all EVER. No matter how much people would ask for it I wouldn't. Seemingly there is still a semblance of me which does indeed hold self-respect.

Dating wise furthermore I would advice men in RL never to give women such a girl advantage anyway. First off....if guys just talk women up it's never in their interest. So just don't do that oke ? More often then not we'll be able to see through the act and even if we don't we just might go ahead and agree with you that "Yes indeed...we are out of your league" and lose interest in you because of it. Make it a game if you try to talk a girl into your bed, where a girl as a challenge can win you. Don't drop it at their feet.
Anywayyyyy....that was just a short disgression.

On the topic of women having nothing else interesting to contribute ?? Maybe we do, maybe we don't. In this thread for instance there were multiple times where I tried starting up a certain discussion but they either didn't uproot or fell dead halfway. Maybe they were too boring or maybe people had a narrow vision in their response and only responded to the main theme without bothering to read the pages. Powerneg - did you just browse this thread or did you ACTUALLY read it.

@powerneg specifically - You're from the Netherlands I assume seeing your name and the +31 phone number. Your interests are cute animal pictures,fantasy art (where those from the MtG card backgrounds ??) metal (gothic/symphonic,NWOBHV and nu), ridiculizing certain women (yeah....you have around 4 posts on your wall with the same content) and uhm.......also religion/politics. In a nutshell quite mainstream I have to say. What topics would you thus regard interesting to talk about regardless of the gender of the person you're talking too ??
For instance I can imagine you wouldn't mind having a meet and greet with Christina Scabbia regardless of the topic of fucking her or not.
Don't presume I was stalking you or anything (well I slightly was.....) but just see this as a way for me (seemingly a non interesting thing who has tits) to assess the situation.
Point being....you can have your interests.
Alas...you cannot discuss them here since this is not your thread, feel free to make another thread to discuss musical taste btw or to exchange fantasy art with other users here.

@myhand: I regard feminism only as something relative. In the society where I come from I'm really not a feminist at all in that sense. On the internet though where tons of people (majority guys) feel the need to be cool and thus try to talk down on girls (you dough....bro's before hoooo's....yeah MAN)it's a different setting. Since the tendency here is somewhat one sided my so called "feminism" ensues because I would like to set things straight.
It's a bit the same with social inequality. Where I don't care much in the Netherlands about it or would actually wish for a somewhat larger seperation between rich and poor this isn't the same for 3rd world countries. Where in the Netherlands I didn't get worked up about social differences, I do feel sorry and think it's unfair in India and/or Ghana.
So the situation and times make me something or not...it's not a fixed value. With most of my female friends my stances on "feminism" are quite mild or non excistant actually.

@Fridge guy: You're not judging are you ?? As I recall you were the one who at first actually tried to label me based on me being a girl. It wasn't I who put the emphasis on that part if you can remember. Regardless or not whether you talked or accepted me as a rival or teammate in games fact remains I've actually had multiple games in which I've shown to be more then just a body with tits on it. There's also traces of a functioning brain in me I suppose. Bottom line being - think before you say you can't judge.

@icvotria: I can see where your confusion originated from. Like already said I wasn't aware myself that this was a singular response and not a general response to all women. What I do not get though was the association this could have with male sexism. So far as I can see it's another topic of a male branding women in a certain way. You can get onto your male high horse all you like, but the relevance eludes me.

@all warlight members: This thread being interesting or not.....it's for all to decide themselves. Top 40 wise you also don't look at the quality of a song much but rather at the amount of times people have watched it or bought it (depends on the country).
On regards of actual response and reactions I would actually like to say that while people might hate this thread and find it an irritating way of attention-whoring (if they are of such a mind).....the numbers don't lie.
Your complaints not withstanding it actually has been one of the most viewed and responded to topics over the last 9 days. So like it or not, believe it or not, while you guys might hate it you still react to it.
What was that saying about don't feed the trolls.....uhm I mean....don't feed the attention whores ??

did mushishi really miss the fun that came out of reds challenge?
pity :/

Aranka - You've misunderstood. If the post had've been making the generalisation that men only talk to women because they want to fuck them, I would think that this was more insulting for men than for women. I was wondering if any males did find it insulting, as I think it is often an unconsidered position where sexism is concerned. Sexism towards women isn't something that arises because of men's views on women, it comes about because of sociological expectations of both of the sexes. It's not all men's fault, it is society's fault. When I said I was about to jump on my high-horse, it was a feminist one, although I'm not particularly keen on the word 'feminist', as I have a more holistic view of gender issues. Also, icvotria->Victoria.

Well the general trope being that men always have an ulterior motive and only want sex

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okeHeQEyD4Y


Btw talking about attention whores. Taryn obviously is one. Her topics are just sooooo...mehh. On the other hand, it does fit for this topic.


And sorry icvotria - I assumed you were a guy when you talked about how males should feel offended and "unite in righteous indignition". Furthermore....if some are to be believed "there are no girls on the internet" :P

@Ravera - Would you mind explaining yourself ?

What is "the fun" that came out of Reds challenge ?

the girl from your video is sweet
and yeah the message is not untrue.
A good (girl)friend of me once said, "you cant keep all the girls you are with"
She was right. Its hard for a guy to settle with one girl. She really has to be special, combine many qualities in her at once and even then, since you get so vulnerable that you would basically do anything for her, you will have the greatest difficulties in trusting her. And thats where the danger starts.
It normally doesnt end well.

I would almost believe myhand's sad story as a foundation for his tendency to sleep around :P

Aranka - i never said i can't judge. i said i'm not judging your case in regards to powerneg's 4chan quote but that the point of view he was presenting is interesting in general and often is true when you analyze how certain people act, and how others react to it. I said "I'm not judging" to emphasize my post replies only to powerneg's out of context of this thread. As for my first post - read it once again and stop misinterpreting what i wrote.

Ravearu - +1 aranka - Would you mind explaining yourself ?

Myhand - completely agree.

his challenge was...interesting (bc didn't know it was him)
but when Fizzer banned his accounts, it was fun (at least for me) to see how Red went raging around how unfair that is/was (even though i agree that one should get a mail regarding the reason) + he still does so xD
don't know, sometimes i've got a strange sense of humour :x
in the same sense i found this thing about sexism funny at first
but know i'm more like "come on, get over it(especially regarding sports...), this gets boring"

Yet another thread gone to sexism. :l