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The Long-Awaited Second Clan League Results: 5/20/2013 23:43:14

JSA 
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My idea with the clan league is to match up similar clans in terms of skill as best we can. The problem with putting Relite in the lowest group is that it is no fun for them then. Or even Group B. They would dominate the group and have no competition. It is not fun to be able to beat everybody else without even trying. Instead there needs to be some serious competition. That is why I am not going completely based on pass results, although it is very similar. The top 5 seem by far to be the best 5 to me. However, 7 teams in a group is a good idea in my opinion. I just don't see any way to leave Relite out of that though. You say let's be fair, but not adding Relite in Group A would be penalizing any new clans. This season, I was completely bored with most games, even 1v1 and before lolowut started getting booted. There were just very few games I actually tried on because over half were games against players that had no business playing against me. And I'm sure it was even worse on Dead piggy and Ironnova and Boston. I would rather people enjoy the league rather than making it always go exactly according to a strict schedule and not make exceptions. The other 2 teams that would be joining the top group, [WL] and CPU work for me and in that case, I see no reason why [REGL] or {Warlighters} should jump them. The only time I would have a clan jump another clan is if one clan is obviously stronger than another. So the new plans for me:

Group A:
[WM]
Apex
Relite
[WG]
[WL]
AHOL
CPU

Group B:
[REGL]
{Warlighters}
FBG
[MC]
[VIW]
{101st}
[TUC]

Group C:
Dragon
[KK]
[Zen-D]
[P]
{RING}
Any new clans (I predict 1-2 of these clans I have currently listed will drop out due to not having the people for it)
The Long-Awaited Second Clan League Results: 5/21/2013 03:11:45


♈§IRIÜS♈ 
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JSA, ironnova is not inactive :) we can find him back :)
The Long-Awaited Second Clan League Results: 5/21/2013 09:57:14


[WM] ᵀᴴᴱ𝓕𝓻𝓲𝓭𝓰𝓮 
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why did you leave RSP out? do they not have enough people at the moment?

PS: as for your reply, i agree - i would give ReLites wildcard to group A.
The Long-Awaited Second Clan League Results: 5/21/2013 10:06:42

SMD4FREE
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i dont think anyone wants to join, i can play the entire thing out myself, i think i'm the best eu 3v3 player in my clan anyway.

1v1
/RSP\Falcon51
Christian Grey

2v2
/RSP\Falcon51
Christian Grey

3v3
/RSP\Falcon51
Christian Grey
{RSP}Nike

Is that OK?
The Long-Awaited Second Clan League Results: 5/21/2013 10:08:26

SMD4FREE
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RSP is a semi-dead clan anyway, i wanted to join Relite just for this thing, but Mannerheim told me my forum activity showed that i'm not friendly enough to join them. :/
The Long-Awaited Second Clan League Results: 5/21/2013 10:14:48


hedja 
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Dammit Relite pushed REGL out of Group A :(

How many clans will be going up and down? I think it should be top 2 and bottom 2 switch, if not each change will be too slow, and whoever goes down next season will go up the next.

We will put out a better team this time, with probably only {CS} members, when will the exact names have to go up?
The Long-Awaited Second Clan League Results: 5/21/2013 10:15:56


hedja 
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Sorry for double post, but Falcon / Nike, that would eb the same as if HHH, Gui or myhand decided to make their own clan and just join with alts, wouldn't be good. Find 2 new players or don't play imo
The Long-Awaited Second Clan League Results: 5/21/2013 10:29:25


[WM] Gnuffone 
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yeah no clan make with multiaccount.
7 clan for division seems good.
The Long-Awaited Second Clan League Results: 5/21/2013 15:36:50


ChrisCMU 
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I think before you slot clans you need to know the rosters competing. Several clans are top heavy with a few good players and a lot of average players. Some of those people are in multiple clans as well. Where they play greatly alters the expected level that clan would compete at.

I think these are the steps you should follow:

1) Decide on formats of all games/divisions
2) Get rosters from clan leaders
3) Slot clans into appropriate divisions
The Long-Awaited Second Clan League Results: 5/21/2013 16:16:01

JSA 
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Falcon, a clan is not made of one player. The timing will depend on the group. Group A will be the first group we worry about and then we'll go down from there. I think the settings worked well this season, I don't know what to change them too, except I'd like to see 2v2 move to the map East Asia & Oceania to provide a little bit of change. I am not judging all on rosters, I don't think one player missing from any one clan will decrease them too much, and to me the groups seem to be set up right at the moment.
The Long-Awaited Second Clan League Results: 5/21/2013 16:49:10


Mudderducker 
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Some new clans u could ask are: SoL, BR, juggernauts and why are RP not in it.
The Long-Awaited Second Clan League Results: 5/21/2013 17:58:55


Ironheart
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If relite could dominate the group c clans so easily then how come they have less points than some group c clans.
The Long-Awaited Second Clan League Results: 5/21/2013 18:01:21


Min34 
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I`m assuming that you mean the Role Play clan with RP.

I don`t think that is a real clan, but more of a group of people who like RP games. There are also lots of people in it from different clans, so even if it was a clan then it wouldn`t have a lot of players to play in this league, since they are already participating for another clan.
The Long-Awaited Second Clan League Results: 5/21/2013 18:08:10

[CK] Mike
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Ironheart, Relite does not equal elite. Elite literally competed in 2/7 tournaments and had only 2 guys competing. Relite has many of the same players but many new ones too. RP didn't have the people for it last time, otherwise they would have.
The Long-Awaited Second Clan League Results: 5/21/2013 19:44:15


Ⓖ. Ⓐrun 
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I don't think Relite should have to go to the bottom, but I don't think they should jump straight to Group A. REGL earned they place fair and square in that thing. I would be happy to see new clans start at the bottom, but perhaps some exceptions could be made. Group B has some strong competition anyway; my clan is stronger then ever and if I can beat a member of Relite, I expect our best can give Relite a hard time too :)
The Long-Awaited Second Clan League Results: 5/21/2013 20:59:34


hedja 
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Arun, though I am annoyed that REGL was dropped to Group B, there is no way Relite should be anywhere except for Group A, if not they won't play or put any effort into it...
The Long-Awaited Second Clan League Results: 5/21/2013 21:52:40


ChrisCMU 
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Re-Lite has the #1 team on 2v2 ladder and it is no fluke. Can't see them held out of group A.

Why do the groups need to be even though (amount of teams)? Why not simply divide it into tiers and who cares if 1 tier has an extra clan in it? I'd rather each tier/group be competitive than be the same size.
The Long-Awaited Second Clan League Results: 5/21/2013 21:54:32


Aranka 
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Arun, everyone on this forum knows that 1vs1 ME is not my best level of play and furthermore insiders know that with 100 multiplayer games at a time my level of interest in the games was quite minimal.

If I had known you would be such a bad sport and proclaim your "victory" over me at every opportunity I would have at least taken the time to analyze your starts and/or probability of my attacks. But like I already said, I didn't know that and couldn't be bothered with so many games.

So "congrats"
The Long-Awaited Second Clan League Results: 5/21/2013 22:38:02


myhandisonfire 
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I dont say why Arun while he for once won a game should be quiet about it.
Be happy he instead, that he considered the win notable :)
The Long-Awaited Second Clan League Results: 5/21/2013 23:57:17

Jehovah 
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i'd try to find a team, but RSP wants Group C.
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