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mfw I saw this thread :

gay marriage is A-OK in my book. Anyone who says otherwise is a biggot.

God doesn't exist.

Maybe that's why.


Evaluation didn't happen

gay marriage is Z-OK in my book. Anyone who says otherwise is a faggot.

Demonizing homosexuality is a Judeo-Christian invention. In greek antiquity, homosexuality was perfectly normal and broadly accepted within the society. In fact, the ideal of beauty was that of an athletic man, not a woman. Women were considered deformed versions of men.

All the ressentiments you have against homosexuality are the result of a millenia long profound indoctrination and socialization by Judeo-Christian (or Muslim later on) beliefs, not the result of logic.

Logic differs greatly on many subjects. Beliving homosexuality is good/bad is a form of logic Depending on reasoning.

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Logic differs greatly on many subjects. Beliving homosexuality is good/bad is a form of logic.

that has nothing to do with logic

Your idea of logic is diverse from other people's

Your idea of logic is diverse from other people's

People should be more aware of that, I think that the quote speaks the truth.

Thanks for calling it a quote that make me feel special :P

myhandisonfire I have no idea what are you talking about and you probably also have no idea. You try to argue that homosexuality is fine with the argument that the man were some kind of an ideal 2000 years ago, while you have a woman on your avatar. This is a example of non-consistent though process. Opinions never have logical value. In the way you try to describe it, it have nothing to do with logic or not. People are hostile toward this disgusting pervertion due to a real negative effects it have upon the societies it exist in and this sentence is a example of the one that have logical value. It is not an opinion but a fact.
You both have no idea what a logic is, so don't use this word in your pseudointelectual babbles because it looks silly.
There is also not such thing as different ideas of logic. If people have different ideas about that, then for sure one group of them is wrong. Logical truth or false is an obiective value, not a subiective. It really makes me wonder who you are people to not realise that opinions ARE NOT logical.
There is no logic in saying Greek societies were right because they accepted this pervertion so it should be considered as a proper argument for this statement while the christianity is wrong just because it didn't accepted this pervertion.
Don't you think that your thinking is a result of modern brainwashing and "indoctrincation"?
It is actually pretty funny and ironical to state that people against homosexuality are indoctrinated while in fact your world view is dictated by what you was taught in school or in mass-medias. While I don't want to negate the authority of school institutions as an educational facilities it is an obvious fact for non-brainwashed people that at some point there is forced propaganda of political correctness into people's heads and brainless lemings like you are the result of that. We can see a plenty of them in this thread.

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"My opinion about the gays is........... let em fuck who they want when they want it ain't our job to judge them." - Random American red neck

myhandisonfire I have no idea what are you talking about and you probably also have no idea. You try to argue that homosexuality is fine with the argument that the man were some kind of an ideal 2000 years ago, while you have a woman on your avatar.
You don't have to be homosexual to think that being homosexual is fine. So his avatar does not matter.

This is a example of non-consistent though process. Opinions never have logical value. In the way you try to describe it, it have nothing to do with logic or not. People are hostile toward this disgusting pervertion due to a real negative effects it have upon the societies it exist in and this sentence is a example of the one that have logical value. It is not an opinion but a fact.
Please give me a good example of negative effect of not being heterosexual.

You both have no idea what a logic is, so don't use this word in your pseudointelectual babbles because it looks silly.
There is no logic in saying Greek societies were right because they accepted this pervertion so it should be considered as a proper argument for this statement while the christianity is wrong just because it didn't accepted this pervertion.
*Because you think it looks silly. It is not silly, I don't think it is.

Don't you think that your thinking is a result of modern brainwashing and "indoctrincation"?
No.

It is actually pretty funny and ironical to state that people against homosexuality are indoctrinated while in fact your world view is dictated by what you was taught in school or in mass-medias. While I don't want to negate the authority of school institutions as an educational facilities it is an obvious fact for non-brainwashed people that at some point there is forced propaganda of political correctness into people's heads and brainless lemings like you are the result of that. We can see a plenty of them in this thread.
When is something brainwashed? What/who do you consider as non-brainwashed?

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Also for who is interested this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnOJgDW0gPI (Imagine A World Where Being "Gay" The Norm & Being "Straight" Would Be The Minority! [Short Film])

myhandisonfire I have no idea what are you talking about and you probably also have no idea.

While I agree that you have no idea what I am talking about, I urge to speak for yourself, because I do.

You try to argue that homosexuality is fine with the argument that the man were some kind of an ideal 2000 years ago, while you have a woman on your avatar. This is a example of non-consistent though process. Opinions never have logical value. In the way you try to describe it, it have nothing to do with logic or not. People are hostile toward this disgusting pervertion due to a real negative effects it have upon the societies it exist in and this sentence is a example of the one that have logical value. It is not an opinion but a fact. You both have no idea what a logic is, so don't use this word in your pseudointelectual babbles because it looks silly.

More than 2000 years ago, humanity made a leap in civilisation. It advanced culturally, technically, medically, philosophically, scientifically etc. This all happened in ancient greece, under polytheism. With the fall of the Roman Empire and the adoption of Christianity as the main ideology in Europe, many of these advancements were forgotten or reverted. Europe had more than a thousand years of dark times under the banner of Christianity.
It needed the greek antiquity a second time, after the fall of byzantium and the resulting spread of ancient greek knowledge to the italian city states that Europe would find its way out of these dark times again. This process was called Renaissance, which means the rebirth. And the rebirth is the rebirth of antiquity. So with your lack of knowledge and incoherent babble you are the only one that looks silly here.

You claim homosexuality is a perversion, which is basically the viewpoint of the catholic church. You being from poland in one of the most catholic countries on earth, its not suprising that you adopted that viewpoint as your own. But as you said, you lack the knowledge and understanding of the things I try to explain to you and your ideological barrier will prevent you from doing so in the future. But homosexuality is not a perversion, its totally natural. Homosexuality is widespread in nature and it will always be a part of animal (including mankind) behaviour. Your denial wont change the evolutionary behaviour, nor will it the stop the world to spin, no matter how much you curse it. So quite ironically you are the pervert in denying nature.

The renaissance barely affected most people in Europe, it was mostly the higher classes that were affected. and most renaissance artists were paid by the church.

I am glad that you resigned of using the word "logic" as you are far from the person that have any clue about what it can possibly mean. Maybe you will do your homework one time.

You again prove that you have completely no idea about what are you talking about. All this, as I said already, pseudointelectual babble is a false. I am not sure if you are twisting fact deliberately or you just lack the basic knowledge about history.
I see no reason to mention that there was some kind of an develpoment in antique times because it is not related with the topic of this discussion, but you are probably mentioning that not because it is really a valid point or argument but just because it would make the acceptance of this pervertion as a reasonable thing. The advancement of humanity was noticeable in it's whole history and the one made in those times was actually very little compared to the development made in those "dark ages" and the times that ocurred after this time period. It goes to every aspect of life and science. You are simply brainwashed and you believe in the myths of how bad dark ages was and that the Christanity is responsible for everything that bad happend in those times. It doesn't makes me wonder why you never came up with the idea that there can be something wrong with this kind of a world view if you believe that opinion is logical! You need to educate yourself before you will embarass yourself once more with your very little knowledge.
That's why democracy and all other "developments" of antique Greece were quite bad for humanity. Democracy as a reign of fools (like you) and chaos, homosexuality that treaded the morality of people and made their societies weak. Greece quickly fallen to Romans that after some time adapted their views (homosexuality for example) and followed them.

The dark times you mentioned didn't happen due to Christanity and that it found homosexuality as something wrong and as a sin. This is what you seem to say and what is completely ridiculous. Again, there is no correlation between these things.
Christianity was well adapted in whole Europe long before the fall of Roman Empire which resulted in the dark times, not the existence of Christianity itself. Now we need to answer the question of why Roman Empire have fallen. I will leave you with this mistery. Small tip for you: It was not due to Christianity that was well accepted for houndreds of years.

With the renaissance and the birth of Machiavelli there is related the birth of liberalism - the reason of regress of whole modern western world. This is a huge topic to discuss on which I have no desire to talk right now, especially when you seem to be a hardcore, blind libtard that don't see anything except his own false world view.

Your argument that I might be biased because I live in Poland (not poland, you use a capital for writing a country names you uneducated troglodyte - I believe this is one of the examples of your pettiness due to our view differences which is pathetic) is kinda weak, because I don't have to be a Catholic myself. Generalisations are in general UNLOGICAL unless you will investigate every Pole which you obviously haven't done. This is not a surprise once again to me as you managed to prove yourself as a failure of a person that have any idea about what is he talking about.

"Homosexuality is not a perversion" - It is not just because you have said that? In fact, there is no homosexual behavior in nature observed. It is an artifical behavior that was putted into peoples heads by the indoctrination that also managed to take over your weak mind.
So homosexuality is not definitely natural and everything that you managed to write in the last pharagraphes is just a worthless nonsense. This also means that your weak ad personam arguments at the end of your pathetic post are also invalid.

I will answer your next babble tomorrow at the evening as I have no more time for you.

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The fuck is a troglodyte?

A troglodyte is a ancient homosexual dinosaur.