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When teammates get booted: 3/28/2015 00:20:48


Punching Bag (^_^;)
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mayoo, did you forget the enter key on your computer? :P

i often see people join a game early and then when the game starts taking a while, they start doing something else, like another game, or tab out or w/e. additional time the first turn would be nice, i often see people realize a game they joined a while back suddenly started, and rush back with very little time to think, if any, assuming they are still in the game

most good players don't shout or yell at their teammates. normally the issue is with the other teammates who believe that
1. they actually know what they are doing
2. to imply in any way that their orders are not the best way of going about things, suggest any kind of change, or even link helpful threads for later viewing, is tantamount to extreme arrogance, bad attitude. The noobier players will often complain that the more experienced player is being condescending, regardless of how polite or gentle the more experienced player may have been.

there is a reason you don't see more of the good players just randomly joining teams with open seats, it is too hard to try to get many of the weaker players to even listen, never mind to change their orders. not when most people "know better"

might i also point out that team-work involves, well, teams. i would say that a jerk who cusses out someone trying to help him is far less deserving of a win than the more experienced player who is trying to help. unfortunately they may well be on the same team.

the people who hold up games, are generally not the more experienced players, except in rather high level games :P

the points you should take from this -
pretty much every good player i have seen and many below even my rather sad skill level, is not a booter. quite a number of rt games with no autoboot, where someone had an issue and had to leave, became a multiday game. if anything, the noobier, and nastier jerks who believe they have the skilz will be the primary booters (and booted)

better skilled players are generally more mature.

the people who are trying to offer advice, (at least up until now) will generally have a better idea of what is going on than you do, otherwise they would not realize that advice needed to be given. stfu and listen, stop being an arrogant prick. (this is to all the noobs out there :P)

this feature would be very nice, and in the cases where people are actually listening to each other, it will have much less effect in terms of the skill with which all the moves are made on a team, booted players or not

Edited 3/28/2015 00:21:27
When teammates get booted: 3/29/2015 01:57:37

RvW 
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@Ryiro:

Just to clear up any misunderstandings, I did not intend to claim all strong players are arrogant, just that there is a sufficient number it might be worth taking (the existence of) that group into account, if at all possible.

Returning from getting booted is a setting; it can be disabled. In almost all games I'm aware of, the number of allowed "returns from AI" is very limited. Relying on it to support your argument, makes the reasoning rather shaky, in my opinion.
When teammates get booted: 3/29/2015 02:11:47


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I think with this option, the booted player should be allowed to return an unlimited number of times. Also, I'm not so sure about the extra time idea, since it seems like it could get really confusing, especially if the game also used banking boot time. I think it would be better to introduce another boot time (like vote-to-boot, direct boot, and auto boot times) which if passed, will allow a randomly selected teammate to take over for you, and not allow anyone else (including you) to edit your orders for the rest of that turn. At the beginning of the next turn, the system will default to teammates editing your orders but you can press a button to give control back to yourself.
When teammates get booted: 3/31/2015 12:04:19


Master Ryiro 
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Warlight Staff we need your thoughts on this
most players have liked this idea so far
When teammates get booted: 4/1/2015 00:56:30


Thomas 633
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now give me a reason why that player would accept
When teammates get booted: 4/1/2015 15:30:34


Punching Bag (^_^;)
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zeph, what if the resulting team does not get along? :P

jk

so this would have to draw on people currently logged in then. does fizzer have a way of doing that? (fizzer?)
When teammates get booted: 4/3/2015 03:35:31


mayoo
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In my opinion, I think that the best way of this whole ordeal is to have the highest win rate player take control. This way, there is not the incentive if the buzzer boot. Sadly, I can see that most of the people who disagree at this idea are either players who are not very good, newer players or trolls in the case of Pooncrew. One other reason that one would want this feature is actually in case a player needs to leave. I have had many games where a team mate or opponent will say that he/she has to leave. This almost always results in a vote to end. It can be at times quite annoying and especially bad when a player does not agree.

Players on the rest of the team should probably be able to decide whether it was worth giving points to the booted player.

I can assure anyone that a team with a good player and 2 open minded players will work better than 3 players who are ok or almost as good as the good player.

Booting is something that should be decided by the host if that mechanic is an important game strategy or not.
When teammates get booted: 4/8/2015 04:43:34

Marc
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I agree that this is extremely annoying. I played a 1 and a half hour game on a large map and it started to get interesting. Then my team mate was booted (and deservedly so - was given several chances and kept playing late).

I think there are too many of you out there who join multiple timed games and can't keep up. You are wasting every bodies time.

allowing another player to join the game is a great option, and until someone joins have the AI or team mate make the moves. i have read most of the comments and do not see the issue here. At the end of the day AI is better than no team mate at all.

But a bit of respect shown to your fellow gamer's is something we all should be pushing for. And it should be very clear somewhere in each persons stats how often they are booted, so that the serial offenders can be avoided.
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