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U.S. Politics o.o : The Protests: 5/4/2015 10:24:02


Kreczmar
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If women have right to kill unwanted children, then Hitler had right to kill unwanted jews. That's all.
U.S. Politics o.o : The Protests: 5/4/2015 11:13:25


Lawlz
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Of course a kurwa would say that. Women give birth to the children, and are expected to take care of them no matter what. But if they can't afford to feed and clothe the child, the child is neglected and possibly dies and the woman jailed. How is that fair to either party? Abortion is better than neglect because at least they don't have to suffer.
U.S. Politics o.o : The Protests: 5/4/2015 11:23:37


Tyrion Lannister
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no, just give the child up for adoption if u cant afford it.

abortion is laziness.
U.S. Politics o.o : The Protests: 5/4/2015 11:23:57


Eklipse
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My point is (directed at Martian) that just because something has human DNA dœs not mean that it is human life.

You're being intentionally dense. When Martian talks about something "having" human DNA, he means something that uses said DNA.


It's not killing anybody since they're not really living yet

Science has proven otherwise, but let me ask when do define a child as becoming a life form?

We can, by statistics, roughly predict the future. Weathermen do it all the time.

Roughly is the key word here. It's great that you use Weathermen as an example because Weathermen are so often wrong on the details. Also, Weathermen often predict ahead in a matter of days. You are saying we can predict human life over a matter of decades. This is not possible for there are too many variables, I don't care how many statistics you think you have.

It's not murder - they have no brain, their version of life is basically seeing some light flashes halfway through pregnancy, and having literally almost no cognition to determine what these light flashes are. By your definition, killing earthworms is murder.

They have no brain? (Let no one say that I haven't used any sources in this argument)
http://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/pregnancy-week-by-week/in-depth/prenatal-care/art-20045302
http://americanpregnancy.org/while-pregnant/first-trimester/
http://www.nrlc.org/archive/abortion/facts/fetaldevelopment.html
Brain is well formed enough by week 6 that brain waves can be detected.

If everyone got a chance to go to the shooting range
I was referring to the chance to live. As in, the right to actually be born and get a run at life without being murdered by your own parents.
U.S. Politics o.o : The Protests: 5/4/2015 12:16:57


Lawlz
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abortion is laziness.
Oh sure, lemme just give up this AIDS infested kid to an orphanage. His life will be fantastic.
U.S. Politics o.o : The Protests: 5/4/2015 12:25:17


Eklipse
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Oh sure, lemme just give up this AIDS infested kid to an orphanage. His life will be fantastic.

Dear God, Lawlz. Do you want to kill other people with AIDS too? This entire "cure the disease by killing the patient" attitude is downright disgusting. What's next? Are we going to kill every baby we discover to have Autism? (This actually has started to happen on a small scale, unfortunately...)
U.S. Politics o.o : The Protests: 5/4/2015 13:27:48


Lawlz
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Do you want to kill other people with AIDS too?
Nah m8, they do it themselves
U.S. Politics o.o : The Protests: 5/4/2015 14:07:16


Darth Darth Binks
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U.S. Politics o.o : The Protests: 5/4/2015 18:08:09


Tyrion Lannister
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Lawlz:

Your Hitler in 1928
U.S. Politics o.o : The Protests: 5/4/2015 18:57:56


Жұқтыру
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science has proven otherwise, but let me ask when do define a child as becoming a life form


When they're out of the womb/ready to come out/kicking. Science is nothing here - it's all opinion meanings.

Life according to the Oxford:

The period between the birth and death of a living thing, especially a human being.


Roughly is the key word here. It's great that you use Weathermen as an example because Weathermen are so often wrong on the details. Also, Weathermen often predict ahead in a matter of days. You are saying we can predict human life over a matter of decades. This is not possible for there are too many variables, I don't care how many statistics you think you have.


Roughly is an understatement - pretty well would be a better word to describe. And we're not predicting details - what they'll be, what exactly they're going to do, just if they will be bad or good and whether their life will be bad or good (almost certainly bad considering that if they want abortion in the first place, they don't want their child). Weathermen aren't made to get the details exact, and anyone who dœs is pretty gullible to believe them.

It's not murder - they have no brain, their version of life is basically seeing some light flashes halfway through pregnancy, and having literally almost no cognition to determine what these light flashes are. By your definition, killing earthworms is murder.


No brain was a hyperbole - notice I said literally almost no cognition.

I was referring to the chance to live. As in, the right to actually be born and get a run at life without being murdered by your own parents.


If someone else is eating pizza, you'll want pizza, too. If pizza isn't nearby or if pizza dœsn't exist (god forbid) then you won't want pizza. Same with life - if you don't know it exists (and know almost nothing, literally), then you won't be jealous.
U.S. Politics o.o : The Protests: 5/4/2015 20:40:47


Lawlz
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Wow gr8 memes, martian. glad you can use those instead of a real counterargument
U.S. Politics o.o : The Protests: 5/4/2015 21:16:49


Genghis 
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Is it just me, or did lawlz become more tolerable with this new pic?
U.S. Politics o.o : The Protests: 5/4/2015 22:29:27


Darth Darth Binks
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Dude, this post was originally about the riots in Baltimore. I did not make this thread to discuss abortion with a smart*ss who says I think rocks are human life forms. That being said, I can play that part, if everyone wishes. Let me give it a try.

Жұқтыру - If you donate $10.00 a month to our cause, you can save hundreds of these poor souls:





Have a heart, man.
U.S. Politics o.o : The Protests: 5/4/2015 22:34:28


Darth Darth Binks
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If you want me to be serious though, I have to say that I don't think there is a lot of justification in killing any human life, no matter what stage the life form is in. If the mother would die, or if it is guaranteed that the child would die, then I think it would be morally acceptable. Other than that, pro-life for life.
U.S. Politics o.o : The Protests: 5/4/2015 23:27:12


Tyrion Lannister
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if you think unborn babies can be killed cause they lack cognition, then the same goes for the mentally ill, and young children.
U.S. Politics o.o : The Protests: 5/5/2015 00:23:16


Жұқтыру
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You don't understand the difference though - of how little these babies can cognite. Children can cognite, retards can cognite, too (though in a different way than how we percieve).

I have to say that I don't think there is a lot of justification in killing any human life, no matter what stage the life form is in.


Basically, what will pain you more to see: An abortion or killing a baby? An abortion is aborting what will eventually develop into a human life, a killing is killing a human life.
U.S. Politics o.o : The Protests: 5/5/2015 01:07:45


Darth Darth Binks
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How can a fetus be nonhuman one moment and then human in the next? This is what I'm talking about. Fetuses are already human life. What pains me is people thinking they aren't, and taking their existence for granted.
U.S. Politics o.o : The Protests: 5/5/2015 02:02:44


Lawlz
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It has yet to be birthed, so it is not a person.
U.S. Politics o.o : The Protests: 5/5/2015 02:07:14


Жұқтыру
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Life:

The period between the birth and death of a living thing, especially a human being.
U.S. Politics o.o : The Protests: 5/5/2015 02:12:29


Major General Smedley Butler
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Wasn't this about riots?

Edited 5/5/2015 02:15:03
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