thmas, that really is

you are asking people to be mindless robots when you say that. of course everyone knows that cops have guns and can kill you and you shouldn't piss them off, but people are people, they lose their cool, they get their dignity crushed, and it shouldn't be a death sentence when they do

This is a quote.

So you want cops, who, by the way, have d*mn good reason to suspect anyone as a threat, to just walk away when someone runs from them and let a criminal go? well d*mn son, you have so skewed views.

The other problem is that no one looks at the polices view. For all they know, when someone reaches into their pocket they plan to pull a gun out and shoot the police officer.

"Ok, did I just read Hebrew or is Israel's education system just crap?"
I'm just not invested in learning English, and except איק errors, I did not write any word in Hebrew..

Precisely^

I hate it when folk say that They trust the police, so why can't the police trust them?

Them is mostly a meek folk, but Mostly being key word.

Rioters, gangsters, criminals, terrorists in the "folk".

Also, Elroi, your English is passable (though still pretty bad).

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Police stinks everywhere, but for a small number of cases, it's still no reason to say that the country is racist, only a small part of the police officers

the police in america (as a system, not even gonna try to argue about individuals) is corrupt and racist. and they work in the context of violence. that is how they do their job. i don't like the idea that it has come to violent solutions to solve our problems, but it's hard to see any other way. peaceful protests go on for a few weeks, the media gets bored, and then nothing changes. it happens over and over again.

and think of it this way. the violence that is happening now and in the past over this issue was created by the police. they are the ones that murder black people in cold blood and get away with it, over and over. if the police don't want violence then a good start would be to stop murdering people in the first place.

i'm white, and i shouldn't pretend to know anything about black peoples' condition, but i do feel strongly about it. if i could afford to, i would go and join the protests in baltimore.

Idiot.

First of all, white police shooting unarmed black men is VERY rare. Why do you think people know the names of Freddy Gray, or Freguson, MI? Because of how rare this stuff is.

Also, in Baltimore, that wasn't protests. It was rebellion. They looted a CVS, and jesus christ, they BURNED DOWN AN 8 MILLION DOLLAR RETIREMENT COMMUNITY.

There lucky the police didn't just open fire.

Thirdly, a BLACK MAN who was in the same van as Freddy Grey said that to him, it sounded like freddy was PURPOSEFULLY trying to hurt HIMSELF. Probably Freddy planned to sue for police brutality, but then he accidentally hurt himself TOO much.....

if they weren't protesting the violence towards the black community specifically. More whites are killed than blacks by police. Is this particular case racist? There's a possibility, but no evidence shows or denies it. I would love to protest police violence in general,

Agree.

The police use those listed because of out of control, violent rioters. Don't call rioters "protesters." There is a big difference. Police don't need to use tear gas and rubber bullets on people peacefully speaking their mind.

Again, I agree!

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Most of the problem stems from the fact that Americans have become utterly obsessed with race. Everything becomes a race issue. If someone commits a transgression against someone of another race, people automatically assume racism. (It's not like two people of different races can have an honest dispute that doesn't involve petty racism, right?)

The media really helps fan the flames on these issues as they do with everything. Anytime a black person is shot by a white cop the media takes it up to eleven and tries to make people think it can't be anything other than racism. Perhaps the police would of shot anyone, regardless of race, in these situations? Now I'm not saying cops can't be racist, but this "all white cops are racists" stereotype is getting exaggerated terribly too far.

I've also noticed a lot of hypocrisy among Americans in general regarding the level of force police should use. If the police do their job and stop riots people whine that the police are violent and too militarized. If the police tone it down people get mad and whine about how the police aren't doing their jobs. It's a no win situation for law enforcement.

Agree.

Military, Navy, Air Force... you'll find support in America.

No one likes a cop.

Edited 4/30/2015 19:02:42

believe what you want kids, but unless your a black person, your attempt to downplay the racism sounds a little...racist

Says the 24 year old troll.

ok, i guess i've pissed off the young conservatives. it's obvious to me how ignorant all of you are about the whole thing. but i'm not here to teach you anything, i was just stating my opinions in a way that i thought was reasonable and not insulting. then i immediately get called an idiot by 10 people that didn't present anything except the garbage that everyone has been taught since kindergarten. i already know about your arguments, it's the mindless drivel that everyone automatically spews out whenever someone like me says the system is racist and corrupt. but of course you have no reason to think there is a problem, you're all a bunch of white kids that don't know anything about real life. you haven't changed my views at all. you've stolen time and brain cells from me, and now i'm done with these discussions.

one last question for those of us that don't have our heads up our asses:

do you also find it troubling that all these angry young fascists are coming out from their caves?

Yeah, I'm a white person who knows there are bad cops. I am also a white person who sees cities being destroyed (yes, this is happening in "real life" I don't know where you've been) by people who don't want to be judged on their color, but needless to say, they aren't helping.

Also, the ***FACT*** that more white people are killed by cops than black people is not "mindless drivel." While I think that name-calling is immature, to stoop to levels you criticize is hypocritical. I suppose you lost your cool, but that does not excuse you from your hypocritical ways just now.

Well, most of the US population is white, but some cases of racism does not mean that's how it all government, then there are some white cops are racists, as can be black cop racist , it's still not a lot of cases for occupancy of 300-400 million.
People who protest are mostly poor black people who want to find a reason to do demonstrations against the government.

ok, i guess i've pissed off the young conservatives. it's obvious to me how ignorant all of you are about the whole thing. but i'm not here to teach you anything, i was just stating my opinions in a way that i thought was reasonable and not insulting. then i immediately get called an idiot by 10 people that didn't present anything except the garbage that everyone has been taught since kindergarten. i already know about your arguments, it's the mindless drivel that everyone automatically spews out whenever someone like me says the system is racist and corrupt. but of course you have no reason to think there is a problem, you're all a bunch of white kids that don't know anything about real life. you haven't changed my views at all. you've stolen time and brain cells from me, and now i'm done with these discussions.

one last question for those of us that don't have our heads up our asses:

do you also find it troubling that all these angry young fascists are coming out from their caves?

xD

The system?

Really? saying theres even the slightest chance that the majority of the gov is racist makes you an idiot.


also, thank you Elroi, there are certainly racist black people- in fact, if there were a way to read minds, I would bet my life on the fact of there being a greater percentage of black people prejudiced against whites than whites against blacks.

Overt racism has nearly been stamped out in this country (aside from cowards online who hide behind a screen name). However, there is still a great deal of it in the form of implicit bias (our subconscious has much more power over us than most of us realize). Those biases are a very real problem and they make it harder for poor black kids to escape poverty.

http://www.salon.com/2015/03/04/10_ways_white_people_are_more_racist_than_they_realize_partner/

It should also be mentioned that (based on what I've heard through the grapevine) a vast majority of the protesters were protesting peacefully.

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ok, i guess i've pissed off the young conservatives. it's obvious to me how ignorant all of you are about the whole thing. but i'm not here to teach you anything, i was just stating my opinions in a way that i thought was reasonable and not insulting. then i immediately get called an idiot by 10 people that didn't present anything except the garbage that everyone has been taught since kindergarten. i already know about your arguments, it's the mindless drivel that everyone automatically spews out whenever someone like me says the system is racist and corrupt. but of course you have no reason to think there is a problem, you're all a bunch of white kids that don't know anything about real life. you haven't changed my views at all. you've stolen time and brain cells from me, and now i'm done with these discussions.

one last question for those of us that don't have our heads up our asses:

do you also find it troubling that all these angry young fascists are coming out from their caves?

Looks like we pissed off the old liberal (Ironic isn't it? The stereotype usually says that all conservatives have to be old men.)

You complain about being called an idiot (I think I saw maybe one person do that), yet resort to name calling. You throw out nothing but insults and did absolutely zero to counter the arguments against your position. There was not a single logical response in that entire post of yours, it was all rage and ranting.

You say we don't know anything about real life, yet you're the one who automatically assumes everyone here is a "white kid" and just gets mad when disagreed with instead of actually discussing. It seems to me that you must be extremely insecure in your position to react this way. Want to prove me wrong? Actually debate instead of just going on a rage rant and insulting everyone.

Cops aren't inherently racist, the riot is bullshit, and you're all idiots for arguing over this.

Thank you for your input, Lawlz. I'll be sure not to let anyone speak their mind next time I ask people to speak their mind. BTW it has already been determined that everybody here is an idiot. It seems to be quite the popular insult on this thread.

Edited 5/1/2015 02:55:43

You're a idiot

I actually went through and checked the total amount of times that "idiot" has been used as an insult on this thread. It's come up 11 times, but only Tyrion, Lawlz, and Tupac (Although the last one I think was joking around), actually directed it at another user(S).

I used it once, but not directed at any Warlight user.

I'll be sure not to let anyone speak their mind next time I ask people to speak their mind.

Nowhere did I say you couldn't say what you wanted to say, you're just an idiot for doing so. You claim that all cops are racist, and that they shouldn't have the power they have now. I'd say you're full of shit and obviously have no real experience with cops. Most of them are just normal people doing their jobs and arresting people who actually are doing bad shit. But you seem to think everyone who becomes a cop is some roided up serial killer out to kill anyone they can. That's not cops, that's the army.