Sephiroth did it for you




Edited 7/18/2015 10:43:46

perhaps this is too ugly and complicated to be useful to anyone? let me know if this map made anything clearer for you.

edit: updated the map

Edited 7/18/2015 12:02:20

It makes sense, but that is just an overall consensus of the bonuses. If there is a that one territory below Denmark as the warlord for Germany, that lowers Denmarks value. There are billions of combinations of warlords and wastelands,

Edited 7/18/2015 10:59:32

WOW!!!

i find this map very interesting, it underlines the overall value of every single territory rather than the value of the whole bonuses.

and yes it is ugly, but it's very intuitive

east france should be green on your map piggy.

More editing, please critique. Is all the stuff in "advanced" easily compehensible to people who didnt already know it? It feels to me like im preaching to the choir.

Benjamin I read sze's PDF twice, it introduced me to the idea of dividing the map into islands, centre and russia. It had a lot of strange boring bits (esp the mathematical formulas) and didnt discuss just one specific template so I consider this post to include all the best bits as well as a lot more. If you still need to read sze's guide after having read this one then this one needs to be improved. A quick look at one of the example games that he uses should tell you that the standard of play when the guide was written was shockingly low https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=1738965

If anyone has example games where any of the things are mentioned happen pls send me links.

Edited 7/18/2015 12:55:16

i think 1 should be green,2 should be yellow,3 should be yellow and ? is because i think west balkans as a whole should go from yellow to green,orange to yellow,and red to orange,also i could not get the entire map in one page,can you send me the link to the image?

Edited 7/18/2015 13:16:43

i agree with ryiro

picks are distributed this way: if one team is abc and the other team is DEF then it goes aDEbcFFcbDEa and repeats. In no luck-cyclical this order is defined by a being the first person to commit their orders. This means that the player F will get picks close together. If youre mirroring it can be worth scattering picks rather than picking adjacent bonuses in a row to avoid players F,c and b from getting their first and second picks very close together therby lessening their area of influence.

don't cluster pick mmmkay?

ryiro Ive noticed that you love a good lenningrad or vologda, as a counter to the entirety of russia. I worry that with just 1 pick in russia you put the person with that one pick under a lot of pressure not to get eliminated there. Im not saying its wrong, ive seen it work for you, but that isnt how i pick and i wouldnt endorse it (yet). Russia doesnt play like the other 2 continents because its so open and has such large inefficient bonuses you cant rely on it for income until your team own it completely, and you seem to be exploiting (or emphasising) that.

Why do you think 2 should be yellow but rhineland-pfalz should not? I somewhat agree, same with 3. I think I need more colours. theyre okay picks but theyre only supporting one bonus which is already quite meh.

I was already toying with west balkans in paint trying to work out what i liked and why. I was waiting to play some more games so i can compare this map to what i actually picks and improve it. Its not a bonus i rate very highly, when i look back over my own picks it rarely gets in the top 15 let alone top 10. Maybe thats wrong of me but the map is there to reflect what i feel about each territory.

http://gyazo.com/82f0e852f40be1bf8f48d65717089580

Edited 7/18/2015 14:37:12

Piggy I was just going to post the image you troll :P

If you make a new color, make it neon green.

Edited 7/18/2015 14:37:46

You said that was hard to find players. If you play MD, I would join one of your games with pleasure Piggy.

Good thread.

http://gyazo.com/1d759f6479f37cd1efd08cfb0b947261
added new colours and messed with it a bit. still not happy with it.

Edited 7/18/2015 15:31:44

I can barely see the Orange-Red/Red mix compared to Orange. Here is my recommended order:

Dark Green
Neon Green
Yellow
Orange
Red

shouldn't this thread be in general btw? this has nothing to do with ladders until fizzer finally adds the highly requested europe 3vs3.

Piggy can predict the future

If this were in the General forums it would have been buried beneath all the off-topic crap. Its best that it stays here.

Pig you got Skype so i can coordininate games? Or you prefer to play multi day?

Btw, love your guide a lot.

Edited 8/1/2015 23:13:01

There is a chat for creating 3v3 Europe games here:

https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=9048319

I assume the host is still inviting players?