A lot of the honorable mention clans are better than yours. BUT some of them are new like VS. Some of them just don't do clan vs clan stuff like statisticians, Yin-Yang, and Incognito. So those clans would definitly be higher than you. BR FUDEW and Warlight Staff are probably ahead of you but WL Staff has 2 players...... SO I can't really count them and BR FUDEW has had some players retire and I have no clue if there leader is still around due to health issues.
So what attracted me to yall was all your jabbering in the clan forums about challenging this clan to such and such. Also Smileyleg is pretty badass. Des, eklipse, and you are alright from what i've seen but i'm judging the clan more than the individuals...
Does this make sense? You might not have been been better than the other clans but you were more qualified for a rank?
I really can 't wait for clan league to come around so I can see how accurate I am. I would love all of these clans to prove me wrong. Especially the lower ranked clans and my affiliate clans.
@Widzisz
Thanks for the correction I was too lazy to look that one up.
I would like to clarify, when you say "I will be listing my opinion of the top strategic clans on warlight" you are taking all clans, and then rating them by how good the players in them are, correct?
^I was going to ask the same. (Because in my eyes it looks like you have used some other criterias. Oh, and also when ranking how good the players are, do you estimate the average, or do like a top 5 from each clan?)
Also I think that you are being a bit harsh on yourself, as in my opinion Master is slightly better than Lynx. However as mentioned by yourself it could be viewed that you are being biased towards yourself.
If we went head to head (like we did in clan league) I think Lynx would win (like we did in clan league) :P :P :P
I mean the post was made by Master Turtle, and if I recall correctly MoD was banned in CL6. Master Turtle said that he is obviously bias like all people are.
So how are we rating these clans? If it is enjoyment of members, it will be almost impossible to rate the clans. If we are ranking them purely on skill, then how is 20 not first by a long shot? No one can compete with them on team games. Even with just players that are active, 20 is the most skilled. If we are rating clans by activity, kynte has already done this.
Also, you can't compare a clan with very few members to a clan with many members unless you take only the top members of the bigger clan and compare that to all the members of the smaller clan. Like if we are comparing GG and Apex, Apex has only 8 active members exclusively in Apex. So we should take the top 8 of GG to compare.
Essentially, I'm saying this kind of rating clans has no point and is worthless. There has to be some kind of numbers involved like in knyte's rankings. I used to be a big advocate of this kind of ranking but it just doesn't have any basis and is 100% opinionated.
JSA, these are always opinion based, even with the numbers (I fail to see how numbers help), even when you base them on some games, stats, achievements... You still put different value to this or that, therefore when one say "apex is way better than 20" he actually mean "apex is in my opinion way better than 20", and he is not wrong.
Jefferspin, if I don't know who they are then I would imagine they would struggle when playing against the people who I know are top quality. Who would you back to win in a 3vs3, dead piggy + Gnuff + Timi vs 3 people you had never heard of before? Of course the difference isn't quite so drastic when it comes to Master vs Lynx, but if I have played with nearly all of Master / seen them play and have only played with half of Lynx, which should I back? This is why I stated I hadn't played much with them, and that in my opinion Master was better. This is just from looking at the people on their clan pages.
Ok for all you number crunchers, I did this arbitrarily....
I basically judged the clans by (in order of importance): 1. Clan League 2. Other Clan vs Clan stuff. 3. Ladder Success. (& lack thereof) 4. My personal interactions with them. 5. Reputation/Activity
I think it should basically be treated as an alternate clan ranking to the clans page.
I mean 20 may have more skill than anyone, but you also should not discount the ladder performances of the other clans and just go based on pure skill that is rarely utilized in actual games.
#4 is pretty good for a clan that has only played clan league one time in 7 seasons.
20 has more skill than anyone in making you believe they have more skill than anyone, that's how they rulez. And yes, I know that rulez doesn't fit grammatically I just wanted to use this word. The best of them is this myhandisonfire guy, he has mastered the art of convincingly claiming to be the best without proving anything. How does this guy manage to perform so well, what is his secret?
I don't say that the 20 guys are bad. Professor dead piggy for example is outstandingly good as also his current 4th ladder rank (behind WG - Lynx - Masters players) proves.
@[IM]YouMustBeKidding - those statements may make sense for someone who just joined wl 6 months ago, ppl who have been around for longer know they are some of the best
