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Promotion/Relegation League Season 17: 12/7/2015 09:05:03


Phoenix
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Dam i wish i had more time this season, school and thesis just came with this season.
Not counting clan league.

Haven't even looked at this topic.

me and frank should have a rematch in C though which I think it is fair.

good job everyone, deserved your victories more then me.

Edited 12/7/2015 09:06:04
Promotion/Relegation League Season 17: 12/7/2015 09:06:52

huddyj 
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Thanks for explaining that to me, Pushover. I have used a similar but more complicated system. Basically, if 3 players are still tied on head-to-head, then I give them a secondary win/loss record based on the combined win count of those players they have beaten (wins) vs the combined win count of those players they've lost against (losses). In this case it would be:

Falker (4-2, 1-1, 11-6)
Mirror (4-2, 1-1, 10-7, 1-0)
his balls. (4-2, 1-1, 10-7, 0-1)
Orange (3-3)
Tenshi (2-4, 1-1, 6-13)
Metatron (2-4, 1-1, 5-14, 1-0)
Frankdeslimste • apex (2-4, 1-1, 5-14, 0-1)

Edit: Of course, neither system works if they've each won/lost against exactly the same players.

Edited 12/7/2015 09:10:16
Promotion/Relegation League Season 17: 12/7/2015 16:30:39


Pushover 
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Your way of presenting the tiebreak is cleaner, but I think using rank is slightly more robust, as two players can have same wins and losses but still be placed differently.

And indeed, that's the main weakness, when record outside of tie is identical. Lord Syvedyas has proposed to me in the past using kill ratios among players involved in the tie. That is, armies killed / armies lost. The idea is that lopsided games are rewarded/penalized more than close games. It will certainly decide a winner, but it's also somewhat arbitrary. Frank declined to implement this idea.

In the original rules of this league when Chokecherry ran it, 3 way ties or more that couldn't be broken on head to head were broken by a tiebreaker RR tournament among the tied players. Frank didn't like the way this extended the season, so he discontinued the practice.
Promotion/Relegation League Season 17: 12/7/2015 16:42:52


Wenyun 
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Therefore Noobschool officially takes the title of league staller, as he still has 2 games remaining in group F.

You better hope me and him don't end up in Group F together, then. Pretty sure I'm the staller in the Small Earth league. :P
Promotion/Relegation League Season 17: 12/7/2015 18:25:20


ChrisCMU 
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Maybe Frank can post the divisions for next season since we are only waiting on two games (which will not decide a division winner)?
Promotion/Relegation League Season 17: 12/8/2015 07:47:51


Pushover 
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If Frank does what he did last season, he'll think about maybe getting the next season going on February
Promotion/Relegation League Season 17: 12/8/2015 10:39:10


Sułtan Kosmitów
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If there was a way to join it now, I would try it out
Promotion/Relegation League Season 17: 12/10/2015 08:22:54


Pushover 
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Noobschool has completed all but one game! We're on the final countdown!

GROUP F
ChrisCMU (7-0) - WINNER
Don [ Ω ] (5-1)
Polakillo (5-2)
NoobSchool (AHoL) • apex (3-3)
BlacKnight (2-5, 2-0)
[NL] ARand0mPlayer (2-5, 1-1)
[REGL] bobbob000 (2-5, 0-2)
ChristophU (1-6)

These are the final standings of the group regardless of the results of the final game. Hoho. Later this week I'll put the final standings of all groups into one post so you can all salivate over promotion and relegation possibilities.

...also Miyagi sent me a skype message saying he's withdrawing from the league. Why he never bothered to post in the thread or thinks I'm in charge of this thing I'll never know...
Promotion/Relegation League Season 17: 12/11/2015 17:04:57

talia_fr0st
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Why February? Is New Year's Day too close?

Can't wait either way.
Promotion/Relegation League Season 17: 12/11/2015 17:47:24


Sułtan Kosmitów
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where can i sigh myself to play this? :p
Promotion/Relegation League Season 17: 12/11/2015 17:47:25


Sułtan Kosmitów
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Where can I sign myself to play this ? :p

Edited 12/11/2015 18:47:22
Promotion/Relegation League Season 17: 12/11/2015 18:25:39


ChrisCMU 
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Just got email F ended
Promotion/Relegation League Season 17: 12/11/2015 18:40:34


Deadman 
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@Sultan

This thread is where you sign up. So consider yourself enrolled.
Promotion/Relegation League Season 17: 12/11/2015 18:43:34


Sułtan Kosmitów
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Thank You MotD.
Promotion/Relegation League Season 17: 12/11/2015 19:13:16


Beren Erchamion 
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So now we can officially start bugging Frank to post the promotions?
Promotion/Relegation League Season 17: 12/12/2015 11:26:08


Pushover 
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Yes please bug him as much as possible!

Though... I imagine new season shouldn't start until after new years at least.

GROUP F
ChrisCMU (7-0) - WINNER
Don [ Ω ] (6-1)
Polakillo (5-2)
NoobSchool (AHoL) • apex (3-4)
BlacKnight (2-5, 2-0)
[NL] ARand0mPlayer (2-5, 1-1)
[REGL] bobbob000 (2-5, 0-2)
ChristophU (1-6)

Noobschool finishes the season with a losing record.
Promotion/Relegation League Season 17: 12/12/2015 18:53:49


Pushover 
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The complete results from this season:

GROUP A - FINISHED
Krzychu (5-1) - WINNER
Jefferspin (4-2, 1-0)
FlyingBender (4-2, 0-1)
timon92 (3-3, 1-0)
grona • apex (3-3, 0-1)
Ineffable (1-5, 1-0) - Withdrawing from league (private mail)
Master Miyagi • apex (1-5, 0-1) - Withdrawing from league (skype)

GROUP B - FINISHED
Falker (4-2, 1-1, 17) - WINNER
Mirror (4-2, 1-1, 18, 1-0) - 2nd
his balls. (4-2, 1-1, 18, 0-1)
Orange (3-3) - Leaving the league (forum post)
Tenshi (2-4, 1-1, 1)
Metatron (2-4, 1-1, 4, 1-0)
Frankdeslimste • apex (2-4, 1-1, 4, 0-1)

GROUP C - FINISHED
Timinator (5-1) - WINNER
Pushover (4-2, 1-0)
Master Turtle (4-2, 0-1)
Beren Erchamion (3-3)
[WM] Old Surehand (2-4, 1-0)
Master Atom ◆Elite◆ (2-4, 0-1)
Bigchps147 (1-5)

GROUP D - FINISHED
Master Bjarke (6-0) - WINNER
rocky1 (5-1)
Maréchal Lannes, duc de Montebello (4-2)
JV (3-3)
ferede (1-5, 1-1) - unbreakable tie
smileyleg {TJC} (1-5, 1-1) - unbreakable tie
Andersault (1-5, 1-1) - unbreakable tie

GROUP E - FINISHED
Master of the Dead (5-1, 1-0) - WINNER
Verzehrer (5-1, 0-1)
Darkpie (3-3, 1-0)
Ollie (3-3, 0-1)
Dr. Walter Ego (2-4, 1-0)
ps (2-4, 0-1)
Wenyun (1-5)

GROUP F
ChrisCMU (7-0) - WINNER
Don [ Ω ] (6-1)
Polakillo (5-2)
NoobSchool (AHoL) • apex (3-4)
BlacKnight (2-5, 2-0)
[NL] ARand0mPlayer (2-5, 1-1)
[REGL] bobbob000 (2-5, 0-2)
ChristophU (1-6)

GROUP G - FINISHED
master of desaster (4-1, 1-0) - WINNER
linberson (4-1, 0-1)
<SNinja> almosttricky (3-2)
Oh Noes (2-3, 1-0)
Taishō (2-3, 0-1)
Auroch (0-5)

GROUP H - FINISHED
Peixoto (3-0) - WINNER
Stormers (2-1)
Great Expanse (1-2)
J0twe (0-3)

GROUP I - FINISHED
The Glorious Koala (4-0) - WINNER, withdrawing from league (private mail, switching accounts)
butterfly94 (3-1)
MightySpeck (2-2)
indibob (1-3)
[WOLF] Colonel H Cardwell (0-4)

GROUP J1 - FINISHED
USA Biches (6-1, 1-0) - WINNER
Buns157 (6-1, 0-1)
Gimli (5-2, 1-0)
Hostile (5-2, 0-1)
Fleecemaster (3-4)
Platinum (2-5) - Left warlight (currently being puppeted)
Ω Cat Juggernaut (Tom's Guardian Angel) (1-6)
Bayern München is the best! (0-7)

GROUP J2 - FINISHED
Hades (5-1, 1-1) - unbreakable tie
Benjamin628 (5-1, 1-1) - unbreakable tie
awesomeusername (5-1, 1-1) - unbreakable tie
+SAM+ (3-3)
Des (2-4)
Ryzys (1-5)
Jack (0-6)

GROUP J3 - FINISHED
The Cruelest (4-1, 1-0) - WINNER
Indiana Jones (4-1, 0-1)
Kain (3-2, 1-0)
Arkanton (3-2, 0-1)
ipg (1-4)
Chewie (0-5) - Will be removed for inactivity

There are 3 vacant spots in B next season, so expect a lot of super promotions.

Edited 12/19/2015 06:13:27
Promotion/Relegation League Season 17: 12/12/2015 19:04:54


Pushover 
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So how did I do on my predictions?

A: Krzychu wins (correct), Ineffable relegates (correct), Grona relegates (wrong)

B: Tenshi promotes (wrong), Mirror promotes (correct), Frank relegates (correct), his balls relegates (wrong)

C: Timi wins the group (correct), I place second (correct), Bigchps relegates (correct), Beren relegates (wrong)

D: JV promotes (wrong), smileyleg promotes (wrong), rocky1 relegates (wrong), ferede relegates (1/2 correct)

E: MoTD promotes (correct), Verzehrer promotes (correct), Darkpie relegates (wrong), Wenyun relegates (correct)

F: Polakillo promotes (wrong technically), Don promotes (correct), bob relegates (correct), ARand0mPlayer relegates (wrong)

G: MoD promotes (correct), almosttricky promotes (wrong)

H: Peixoto promotes (correct), Roooob bothers to play this season (wrong)

I: butterfly94 promotes (correct), indibob promotes (wrong)

J1: Buns157 promotes (correct), Cat Juggernaut promotes (wrong)

J2: Benjamin628 promotes (correct), +SAM+ promotes (wrong)

J3: Arkanton promotes (wrong), Chewie would be active (wrong)

Performance: 50% right
Promotion/Relegation League Season 17: 12/12/2015 19:27:49


Pushover 
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Promotion/Relegation League Season 17: 12/12/2015 22:01:56


Benjamin628 
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Legacy and the Final Forbidden Knowledge are the same person. Legacy is currently his main account, so I guess is only 1 inactive.
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