How did he made a CS?

just check the link in the first post and you see that someone made the template for him (both accounts are already suspended i see)

thousands of dollars


Not the same as some points on warlight

So what do you mean? So it makes them right to cheat because no money is involved? And we shouldn't do anything to stop them?

I know the case is much less serious, but the same concept applies. Victim blaming is not right. It does not make the wrongdoer right because the victim is not clever enough.

Other games will ban players who cheat, and have an anti-cheat system in place. Warlight has an anti-cheat system (like games with uneven teams / AI will be set as practice). Prevention is better than cure. It is just an easy fix on games which exploit custom scenarios to cheat. Just set them as practice, like what it does to other potentially exploitable games.

Edited 9/29/2015 16:29:12

as fizzer agreed in his livestream, custom scenario games should be flagged as "practice"

there's no downside to it

inquisitor you are great. i fully support you for the good of the game. Keep up the good work .... one day it will be noticed at a higher level and hopefully resolved.

just check the link in the first post and you see that someone made the template for him (both accounts are already suspended i see)

I cant, „the requested game doesnt exict“

You are likening the 2, when in reality they are completely different.

Also all you need to do is report the 2 accounts on their profiles and then be done with it (they are now banned) I do not see much of a reason to make a thread about it. However that isn't to say I'm not grateful for him being found out and eventually banned.

lol more dumbasses too lazy to check settings. Again they got what was coming to them well done cheater very subtle.

just check the link in the first post and you see that someone made the template for him (both accounts are already suspended i see)

Ar! It is the first time I see an action taken on the cheaters, and so quickly. What a surprise!
I reported quite a few in the past (making rigged games, nearly all with custom scenarios), but it appears no action is being taken (the developer never replies, and the cheaters are still around).

you goyyim are idiots anyway, literally no way he could have hosted the match.

I've never seen a cheater getting banned by making rigged games before.

I guess it is because this cheater went too far. First he used his main to help his alt to cheat. Second, his alt has cheated its way to level 41 with 3 rigged games only (cheating too much, otherwise bearable LOL).

Tips: If you want to cheat and get off at the same time, do it slowly. You will still be very safe (well until the developer changes his stance and take those issues seriously ;-) Hahaha... just kidding)

as fizzer agreed in his livestream, custom scenario games should be flagged as "practice"

there's no downside to it

Great! It was so laggy last time and I could hardly hear his response.

This thread is still good to remind him to take those issues seriously. I hope he could fix it as soon as possible. :-)

inquisitor you are great. i fully support you for the good of the game. Keep up the good work .... one day it will be noticed at a higher level and hopefully resolved.

Thanks a lot. :-D

I meant if fizzer made a way to tell if a game was rigged or not how would it work?

He wouldn't, just make all custom scenario practise, even if they are or aren't rigged.

You are likening the 2, when in reality they are completely different.

I'm not sure why you are so concerned about the example. To clarify I only use this example to illustrate the point that it does not make the wrongdoer right because the victim is not clever enough. This example is never the main point. I never say both cases are 90% similar, are equally serious blah blah blah...

Also all you need to do is report the 2 accounts on their profiles and then be done with it (they are now banned) I do not see much of a reason to make a thread about it. However that isn't to say I'm not grateful for him being found out and eventually banned.

Well but you missed out the very reason why they get banned - I made a thread about it. ;-)
(OK I will use an example to explain again, although you will probably argue about the subtlety again)

If you just send email to the government, the government is going to ignore you. But if you organize a demonstration with thousands of people protesting on the street, it is more likely the government will respond and take action.
(yep I know a game site is not the same as the government, but I hope you get the points)

Having said that, I do not mean to blame the developer. I realize it is a one-man job. He must be very busy.

Report is not a good solution. Why?

1. Rigged games keep showing up every day. I'm much much much much much far from catching all of them.
2. I need to spend time to police the open games. I'm actually wasting time to scan each open game, when I'm not actually looking for a new game to join. I don't think I will do it continuously. Personally it does not affect or bother me. I'm good enough not to fall for them. I'm still doing this solely for the good of the game/community.
3. It takes time to write a report (more than you might expect).
4. It takes time for the developer to read and understand the report, and take action. It is understandable the developer must understand the case fully before taking an action.
5. Therefore many will be left unprocessed since the developer is busy.

Why is a fix better?

1. It takes a few lines of codes to implement. (I could imagine it is just a basic if statement syntax)
2. The effort is one-time.
3. Those rigged games (with custom scenarios) will be gone once and for all.
4. No more time have to be wasted on them. So good!
5. As always, prevention is better than cure. ;-)

lol more dumbasses too lazy to check settings. Again they got what was coming to them well done cheater very subtle.

Not really. It is a bit hard to see through the tricks. Not everyone understands every aspect of the game.

It will be very sad if custom scenarios become a byword for cheating, and people's first reaction is to avoid them like plague. We'd better do something before custom scenarios get rotten so badly.

Don't waste your own time - people who join or see a rigged game should report the creator.
For report just link the game and say this is a custom scenario with an unfair distribution.
Fizzer reads all reports - he wouldn't leave them unprocessed just because he is busy.

I'm not against making them practice games - I am for that.

Fizzer's AMA, in case you missed it :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkuLbfKGa5s

1. Cheaters' especially those who rigg games ARE punished. They often loose points + get a warning. Repeated offense eventually leads to a suspension. Only a suspension is visible to the public.
2. Players don't get banned from someone making a thread, please report them and INCLUDE EVIDENCE! (reporting them from in-game gives the game link,)
3. ^Don't write to much in the report. Simply Rigging games+ link is fine.
4. Moderators review the report, Fizzer then reviews the reports were a mod believes action is needed.
5. ^ I don't think Fizzer use to much time on the reports himself, but there may be some delay in the processing of a report, due to the 2-step system. Right now however, all reports are processed in a timely manner.



As for the fix, they will just find another way to rig the games. (Overridden, hard to find bonuses + NLC, boot time trix, negative sanction etc. Afraid it doesn't solve the core problem, players not checking/understanding settings.)

Edited 9/29/2015 18:51:32

I meant if fizzer made a way to tell if a game was rigged or not how would it work?

No need. Games with custom scenario are highly exploitable in nature, and those games are not going to be fair. Even if the creator does not intend to cheat, it is likely the custom scenario is not well designed so not everyone has an equal chance of winning. Some spots are potentially better than others.

It is just like the cases in games with uneven teams and AI. Those games are not fair and exploitable in nature, so all of those games must be set as practice.

IDC about the fact he's rigging games. The thing I'm steamed about is that he's trying to become Supreme leader! Gen.Numbnuts in the only Supreme Leader of Warlight!

Oh I see. It would be great if they send a reply after they processed a report, a general message like the following is good enough:
"Thank you for your report. Your report is read and a proper action is taken."

One reason why I feel some reports are left unprocessed is because I see cheaters who have been reported are still cheating in the same way. Perhaps they are just bold enough to ignore the warning.

Sure one fix is not going to solve all problems, but at least it solves a good portion of them. After all custom scenarios should be set as practice anyway, not just for the rigged game issues.